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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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Just when you thought the LibDems couldn't out-crazy Labour...

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BloodyFreezing · 29/03/2018 00:13

See what they are re-tweeting:

twitter.com/LGBTLD

(Not sure how to link to the exact tweet but it's the Cole Zachary one).

There really is no one to vote for, is there?

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AncientLights · 11/11/2018 22:19

Who is this Myra Huntley please, Supa? The bastard child of Myra Hindley and Ian Huntley, perhaps.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 11/11/2018 22:19
Blush
LemonJello · 11/11/2018 22:22

So you didn’t follow them 😂

Hormones and mapping are irrelevant. The whole premise of whether brains are sexed or not depends on the fact that bodies are sexed.

If transwomen are women and sexed bodies are meaningless then there can be no male or female brain as there is no male or female body to use determine the sex of brains.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 11/11/2018 22:24

Which one of you bitches wants to dance

Apropos nothing

ABitCrapper · 11/11/2018 22:27
Grin
Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 11/11/2018 22:36

Really hoping ive called that right crapper

Otherwise that post is going to look veerrrryy weird

Justhadathought · 11/11/2018 22:37

If there are differences between male and female brains then that would lead to the conclusion that this was down to biology. 'Gender' feeling has nothing to do with biology. The whole gender feeling thing is a relatively recent invention. I do not have a 'gender identity'. I am a woman. This is a material fact.

My identity is based on numerous personality factors, and on certain conditions and experiences of my life. My place of birth/up-bringing/social background etc Also, of course, the biological experiences which are unique to women also have shaped me. girlhood, menstruation, puberty, sexuality, pregnancy, childbirth - and the world's response to me as a person in a female body.

Women do not want men in their intimate spaces without permission.
Respect is key. But even then being respectful does not over-ride the rights for natural women to define and assert their own boundaries.

See Debbie Hayton as an example of someone who has largely been accepted into the female community - because 'she' does not force her way in; or assume an identity based on an obvious untruth.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 11/11/2018 22:37

hang on Rufus, I'm just donning my MC Hammer trousers, then I'll be right with you

does erm, anyone have any talc?

FloralBunting · 11/11/2018 22:42

There are always odd threads on MN somewhere. This one is off the charts right now.

RedDogsBeg · 11/11/2018 22:43

Can you link to this study please Supasoapy?

However, from your explanation that does not prove that Trans Women have a 'female' brain from birth and are therefore female.

You do know that the brain reacts to exposure to all manner of introduced chemicals and substances don't you?

To go back to your earlier rant:

Ashamed that there are non genuine trans women out there. I am ashamed that a whole genre of people are criticised for the actions of the very few. Based on that, all women must be evil sadistic child killers, Myra Huntley, dangerous murdering lesbians, Rose West, but they are minority figures.

I am ashamed that girls and women walk the streets in fear, and have a whole list of do's and don'ts to enable them to remain safe, because of men's predatory nature, and ashamed again, that the whole of mankind is tarred with the brush of violence perpetrated by a minority.

According to TRA ideology there is no such thing as a non genuine Trans Woman, if someone says they are a woman they are full stop, complete acceptance is required. Therefore Karen White a dangerous, predatory paedophile and rapist must also be accepted as what they say they are and by dint of that allowed access to their potential victims so the already paltry safeguarding for women and children is thrown out of the window.

All the men I know accept that men as a class can and do commit hideous, violent and sexual crimes and all the men I know accept that due to this measures need to be put in place to act as a deterrent and provide a degree of safety to potential victims of these crimes.

All the women I know accept that Myra Hindley and Rose West are members of the class of women and committed horrendous crimes and that some members of the class of women can and do commit heinous crimes and any measures that can be taken to prevent them doing so should be taken.

PositivelyPERF · 11/11/2018 22:43

I feel like I’ve just wandered into a pub and there’s a drunk rambling away in the corner, while those around stare into their drinks and try not to catch his eye. It’s all very disconcerting.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 11/11/2018 22:45
LangCleg · 11/11/2018 22:48

Oh, I don't know. You have a nice day, reading your books and snarfing a large roast dinner that somebody else cooked and you watch some nice David Attenborough and you think you'll just have a quick shifty at FWR...

... only to find it's gone missing and in its place is some very strange performance art.

Did someone spike my roasties?

AngryAttackKittens · 11/11/2018 22:49

It was me - I spiked the roasties. Mwah hah hah.

I'm not babysitting the drunk, though.

LangCleg · 11/11/2018 22:51

Keep your spiking hands off my Weetabix!

arranfan · 11/11/2018 22:57

There are always odd threads on MN somewhere

Don't mention the dolphins.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3386868-AIBU-to-be-livid-how-dolphins-are-portrayed-compared-to-how-they-are

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 11/11/2018 22:59

Oh now that was a weird thread arran

Well...weirder than usual

ABitCrapper · 11/11/2018 23:06

I've swallowed the little book of calm Wink

hipsterfun · 11/11/2018 23:17

as it is defined that the soul resides in our conscious mind, it would stand to reason that there is a difference in male and female souls

Brain ghosties again, huh?

RedDogsBeg · 11/11/2018 23:18

Supasoapy what are you referring to here?:

And I am ashamed to belong to a group who will demean my comments through bitchy comments and snide statements, referring to a single event 10 years ago, that will prove a point.

Apologies to all for extending this oddness by asking more questions and making comments but I'm a nosy bugger.

AngryAttackKittens · 11/11/2018 23:20

"The soul resides in" makes it sound like it lives there but is free to go for a bit of a wander if it gets bored. Can a soul go for walks in the woods? Does it sometimes stroll over the the kidneys for a while just for a change of scenery?

LangCleg · 11/11/2018 23:24

My soul is tried on a regular basis.

RedDogsBeg · 11/11/2018 23:26

I thought souls only wandered after the body they were in was no more, maybe that's it all these wandering souls looking for a place to reside in are just moving in without conducting a proper structural survey.

FadingMint · 11/11/2018 23:30

Ah, souls!

Reminds me of Foul Ole Ron's famous Smell:
In fact, the Smell is such a defining characteristic of Foul Ole Ron that it has acquired sentience. It regularly pays visits to the art gallery and opera, and tends to arrive at a destination before Ron does. Ron is actually outclassed by his Smell.

SanFranBear · 11/11/2018 23:37

I always find it interesting that Myra Hindley & Rose West are brought up to show 'women can be just as evil'... and by interesting, I mean incredibly fucking insulting.

Putting aside the fact Hindley's offenses took place in the 1960's and West was caught in the 1990's (you have to go back some time because they are both such rare & unusual cases) - they didn't commit those horrific crimes alone. They weren't the main offender.

So fuck off to anyone citing these two (admittedly vile) women as a way to to show women are as bad... just Fuck Off Angry