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FFS. Flagged at work for gender critical views

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ThinkingQueSeraSera · 26/03/2018 12:57

It's happening.

I'm new in a private sector company. My personal twitter doesn't mention my employer. I've apparently been flagged as 'high risk' for my gender critical views (linking to articles, carefully worded, no abusive language obviously) on my twitter feed. Boss is sympathetic but has told me to be very careful and to not ever mention at work.

We are being silenced for holding perfect legitimate pro-women views and concerns. I'm fuming and scared - both for my job and for women.

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SpringNowPlease2018 · 26/03/2018 14:01

Ellen "Having a critical thought?"

yes, frankly. If you put something on social media that goes against whatever companies are doing at the moment, it can cause issues.

we have a bunch of loos that went unisex - there's always a long queue for the one that remains a women's but I don't think anyone has complained because we are nervous to.

Daff0dil · 26/03/2018 14:08

In the current climate, Shon's choice of tweet may have more significance...

FFS. Flagged at work for gender critical views
ThinkingQueSeraSera · 26/03/2018 14:12

Morgan Kitten - no, people do not have a right to not be offended.

If I had said something racist, homophobic etc or anti the company I would understand but questioning gender ideology in favour of actual, you know, science is not a crime (yet)

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 26/03/2018 14:15

Thinking

That's bloody awful

This is what to do.

-Create a new twitter account with a fake name and new email address
-Protect your existing account so that only your followers can see your tweets
-Tweet your followers that you are starting a new account and can they follow there. Could be an idea to tell them why
-Give it a week, then delete your exising account.

There is a chance that whoever the scumbag who dobbed you in will be an existing folllower, but you can screen your new followers as they follow you and block any who are questionable.

It's fucking ridiciculous that we should have to do this.

vicviking · 26/03/2018 14:15

How are you contravening any policies? This doesn't actually make sense. If all you have done is circulate a few articles published in mainstream newspapers about a potential (and very significant) law change it doesn't make you a high risk employee.

PlectrumElectrum · 26/03/2018 14:17

Those lurking can and probably do cross reference posts here, on twitter, FB and where ever else the public debate is happening on GRA stuff. It might seem like an onerous task to some but its so very easy to join the dots and build up a picture of who someone is, where they live, work, friends, family - it's often on linked accounts that most of your personal information can be found so do be aware when you interact with others, if their SM a/c isn't locked down, that's where something identifiable can be picked up.

Those who are posting publicly and are taking on the flack for it, I admire immensely. I can't make myself known for reasons with my employment but I'd happily do so if my livelihood was guaranteed not to be impacted.and the infuriating thing is, there no other political debate I've ever been part of where that's been a concern for me & it pisses me off greatly.

And those smug bastards on twitter ask you oh so innocently why women don't post in their own name? Hmm

Sarahjconnor · 26/03/2018 14:17

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TerfingHell · 26/03/2018 14:19

OP this news makes my PISS BOIL.

We have GOT to stand up to this: all of us, in solidarity. They can't track/stalk/harass/sack ALL of us.

I've just started a new campaign. I can only suggest that you join it.

Safety in numbers, support, etc.

PM me for an invite xxx

DJLippy · 26/03/2018 14:22

How long will be be before they shut down MN?

Sarahjconnor · 26/03/2018 14:22

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ThinkingQueSeraSera · 26/03/2018 14:25

I feel scared. For my job, not safety.

High risk to the company's reputation. Yup; just questioning erosion of women's rights is a dangerous view.

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flowersonthepiano · 26/03/2018 14:26

I’m self employed, but just wondering. If I were to state something in a tweet like ‘transwomen are men’ (in a logical context of course, not just randomly) – does that make me at risk of being considered transphobic under the law? I know that some people consider that a transphobic statement, but is it “bad” enough to get you into prosecuted or accused of bringing your employer into disrepute?

Terfragette69 · 26/03/2018 14:27

Super scary and quite frankly totally unacceptable! Why are we taking this lying down? Unless I'm putting something illegal on my Facebook page or Twitter what the hell does it have to do with anyone else? This is an infringement of civil liberties. When a TRA writes about killing or raping terf is that getting brought up with their employers or the police??

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 26/03/2018 14:29

Oh my God Sarah
"I was contacted by the Police at work (the police had got my details from MNHQ) regarding a MN post I started. I'd had a transwoman come for a job interview in an incredibly inappropriate outfit and started a thread. The Police deemed it 'not transphobic' in anyway but it was frightening."

WTAF? This is batshit beyond belief. If the TRAs think they can shut us up they are even more fucking deluded than just thinking that they can make us believe that a man can 'become' a woman.

Lurking TRAs - WE ARE NOT SHUTTING UP!

user1469914265 · 26/03/2018 14:29

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 26/03/2018 14:31

High risk to the company's reputation. Yup; just questioning erosion of women's rights is a dangerous view

I've had to refrain from calling a masculine-presenting (think 'This is England") born-male who was overtly condescending and aggressive to women by their preferred pronoun (hint, 'not 'he') for fear of losing my job. It made me sick.

Daff0dil · 26/03/2018 14:32

It may be more about demonstrating links eg with a person / organisation / position which is more easily accused / has been accused of 'hate speech'/ transphobia

YetAnotherSpartacus · 26/03/2018 14:34

I was contacted by the Police at work (the police had got my details from MNHQ) regarding a MN post I started. I'd had a transwoman come for a job interview in an incredibly inappropriate outfit and started a thread. The Police deemed it 'not transphobic' in anyway but it was frightening

I remember this thread and can 'testify' that this is true. many posters thought it a transphobic wind-up at the time because women always lie and fantasise.

redshoeblueshoe · 26/03/2018 14:34

User where's the transphobia ?
If you can actually see any report to HQ and they'll delete it

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 26/03/2018 14:35

User
Read my post.

We are not shutting up

Hope this helps

Daff0dil · 26/03/2018 14:35

all of the 'evidence' has been collected and redistributed by accounts such as Cursed who visited here recently, Guiliana, KIlgore Sprout etc

Theswaggyotter · 26/03/2018 14:39

This is just unbelievable 😡
Is there any way you could ask your boss in what way you are breaking any rules? People should not feel under threat due to insidious threats like this. Believing in science and biology is not a bad thing - how can anyone say that it is??

Terfragette69 · 26/03/2018 14:40

user1469914265

TRA LURKER ALERT ALERT ALERT!

Catspaws · 26/03/2018 14:41

It's hard to imagine you've been flagged as high risk unless some of the things you've said or been linked with on Twitter are actually transphobic. It's not really relevant what language was used if the content can be seen as transphobic. Also, while you may be retweeting individual tweets which are not transphobic if they come from an account which has posted transphobic stuff elsewhere your retweets could be seen as an endorsement of that.

If you work for a private company you sort of have to expect that they're entitled to have their own standards that they expect employees to adhere to, and they're entitled to caution you if you're engaging in activities or airing views which run contrary to their policies or ethos. That has always been the case in business.

You can resolve this by making your twitter private or changing it to a pseudonym and then saying whatever you like.

Lovesagin · 26/03/2018 14:42

Sarah that's awful. Did mnhq give the police your address? Did they tell you they had done it? I recall your thread and the obvious reason of the outfit.....can't believe the fucking police contacted you about that.

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