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List of Schools in Stonewall's school champions

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Jog22 · 22/03/2018 13:25

I've not read the details but some of you might want to see if your school is on there and what exactly is being championed within it.

www.stonewall.org.uk/our-members

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MargeryFenworthy · 22/03/2018 13:27

Delighted to see my DC's school isn't included

OvaHere · 22/03/2018 13:57

This is a tough one, a couple of years ago I would be really pleased that my children's school were engaging with Stonewall and educating about same sex relationships and combating homophobia.

Now Stonewall seems to have been overrun by the trans borg to teach what appears to be (in my opinion) the exact opposite of the gay and lesbian message of love and accept who you are I'm not really on board with it anymore.

My child's primary school recently had a Stonewall partner company in educating them using cartoons based on fairy tales. Having watched the videos myself the trans video directly contradicted the message of the gay video.

On one hand you had two Princes who married each other and were very happy just being themselves and in love and that was okay. The next video was a girl who liked cars and motorbikes and whose big brothers were mean to her about it so the solution to this was to become a boy - only then could she go to ball and fall in love with the Princess (as a male).

Upshot of that message. If you are a gay man being gay is totally okay. If you are a lesbian or GNC woman that's not okay and you must be a man. Angry

CadyHeron · 22/03/2018 14:37

Ova WTF, that is ridiculous! Gay man being gay message, no problem with that bit.
The other one, though? The girl who liked so called "boy" stuff so must be a boy? Angry
That could have been me as a kid (back in the saner times of the 70s and 80s.) Playing in the mud, climbing trees, liking trucks, hating dolls, pink, never wearing make up = I'm definitely nothing other than 100% female though and always have been.
To think if I was a kid now I could be fed that kind of shit is pretty chilling as how confusing must that be to have to listen to? Sad

BlooperReel · 22/03/2018 14:41

Glad to see my DC's current school and intended secondary is not on the list, my old college is though.

GenderApostate · 22/03/2018 15:56

I’m so glad that the schools around me aren’t on the list and neither is the school my daughter teaches at. Strange that the Catholic High tha’s down the road is though

OvaHere · 22/03/2018 15:59

It is ridiculous Cady I made a thread about it at the time. You can watch the video here (all the videos are on youtube)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3189547-popnolly-Primary-school-LGBT-education

It's a shame because I thought the company was fairly good otherwise for the age level it was aiming at.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 22/03/2018 16:06

Our school is on there. What do we think being a champion involves? I'm all for the LGB just not the T...

drspouse · 22/03/2018 16:28

Our local girls' school is on there but not the boys' school. Interestingly I have seen a Stonewall poster at the boys' school.

A local Muslim girls' school is also on there. I wonder if they know they are on there?

JellySlice · 22/03/2018 16:47

Hell. My dc's school is on there. I cannot believe it. They have always been so sensible!

Time for me to download Transgendertrend's School Resource Pack and send it to them.

Gileswithachainsaw · 22/03/2018 16:57

Oh thank God my kids school isn't on there. Neither is the secondary school she's going to. Huge relief.

Scary the number of schools on the list though. :(

Backingvocals · 22/03/2018 17:00

My daughter’s girls school is on there.
She hasn’t started there yet - due to go in September Sad. She’s being well inoculated against this cultish thinking but this should never have been allowed to get into schools.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 22/03/2018 17:02

Our school is pretty sensible. I would guess they've sent someone on the 'Don't be homophobic arseholes' training rather than the 'pink is for girls' one. But I will check when I figure out quite how to...

drspouse · 22/03/2018 17:04

I would guess they've sent someone on the 'Don't be homophobic arseholes' training rather than the 'pink is for girls' one.

I don't think they have any separate training, either they include both or they've eliminated the first one.

Anasnake · 22/03/2018 17:04

Don't know how up to date that list is because my school is one but isn't on it.

Anasnake · 22/03/2018 17:05

They do have separate training for different elements

drspouse · 22/03/2018 17:07

Oh that's interesting to hear.
I'm still v surprised about the Muslim girls' school.

Springtrolls · 22/03/2018 17:15

Two schools here on the list. Both schools are mixed.

MsGameandWatching · 22/03/2018 17:16

Thankfully my dd's all Girls school isn't on the list. I had felt some disquiet about that but wasn't sure how to ask them.

blaaake · 22/03/2018 17:31

Wondering why altrincham grammar for girls is on there but the boys isn't...Hmm

BlackeyedSusan · 22/03/2018 18:57

interesting. one of the schools we considered for dd is on the list.

Backingvocals · 22/03/2018 19:03

Is there a summary online anywhere of what Stonewall are telling schools? Not their blue sky summary obviously.

Fluffymcflufftown · 22/03/2018 20:16

Blimey all my local secondary schools, apart from the girl's school is on that list.
I think that if it was just the LGB education that would be fab. More of it! My 7yo is constantly telling me how she's correcting her friends when they say girls can't love girls and boys can't love boys etc.
We need more positive reinforcement of same sex relationships. I also feel that with good modelling of equality the gender expectations could be reset so you've got boys playing with dolls freely, girls playing with cars without stigma.
There's no need to be throwing ideas of gender nonconformity at small children by telling them there's this magical way to be accepted, take a shit tonne of drugs and you can play with the 'other' toys

cheminotte · 22/03/2018 22:04

Current school isn’t on the list, but unfortunately the secondary school is.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 22/03/2018 22:15

They have a list of courses somewhere. One is 'how to make your school transinclusive' or some old shit and one is 'tackling homophobic bullying' or similar. I think. Unless I read it wrong.

ChattyLion · 22/03/2018 22:43

We need to get in touch with the sex education forum or someone else campaigning on young people and sex and relationships issues. brook? Family planning association?www.sexeducationforum.org.uk
www.brook.org.uk
www.fpa.org.uk

Absolutely there should be discussion in schools on this issue. Not dogma. If you’re going to invite one side of the story in, invite the gender critical side in too. Invite in transgendertrend and use their school pack.

I wonder if the British Humanist Association or someone like that would be interested in this? Surely it’s exactly the same as ‘pro lifers’ bring able to go into schools and tell all the kids lies about how an abortion is a kind of murder which will give them breast cancer and infertility..? It’s pushing a political view on the kids in the absence of specialist knowledge in general on the part of the teacher, meaning extreme claims or actual lies can go unchallenged and unbalanced by an informed, alternative viewpoint.