Yet another abuse of girls scandal in Telford going on for 40 years!

[rowdywoman1]

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/britains-worst-ever-child-grooming-12165527

Up to 1,000 girls repeatedly abused for up to 40 years in Telford. What on earth have the police and other organisations been doing?

Rotherham : Pakistani Muslim men raping and abusing mainly white girls.
Rochdale : Pakistani Muslim men raping and abusing mainly white girls.
Derby : Pakistani Muslim men raping and abusing mainly white girls
Halifax : Pakistani Muslim men raping and abusing mainly white girls.
Telford : Pakistani Muslim men raping and abusing mainl6 white girls.

Pattern? What pattern? I see no pattern. No, definitely not.....

By date of conviction, we have evidence of such exploitation taking place in Keighley (2005 and 2013), Blackpool (2006), Oldham (2007 and 2008), Blackburn (2007, 2008 and 2009), Sheffield (2008), Manchester (2008 and 2013) Skipton (2009), Rochdale (two cases in 2010, one in 2012 and another in 2013), Nelson (2010), Preston (2010) Rotherham (2010) Derby (2010), Telford (2012), Bradford (2012), Ipswich (2013), Birmingham (2013), Oxford (2013), Barking (2013) and Peterborough (2013).
As you can see this list doesn't include the many cases in the last 5 yrs.

Pattern? What pattern? I see no pattern. No, definitely not....

I was about to post the same. We seem to be blaming everyone but the Pakistani men.

Indeed.

Until we can recognise these crimes for what they plainly are : the organised, racially motivated gang-rape of girls of one ethnic group by men of another, we will not begin to tackle the problem.

The extent of the culture of fear and denial among people in authority toward the reality of what is happening to girls throughout the country is profoundly depressing.

The reality is that they care far more about their precious, sanctified ‘diversity’ than they do about raped, abused children.

I've been wanting to post on this thread all day. This happened to me when I was 15. I would like to thank the last few posters for stating what everybody dares not say. Pakistani men, culture, not integrating and seeing white girls as lesser than themselves, available for them to abuse. Its a cultural thing. I don't give a fuck about skin tone, but culture is about mindset and morals.

sad thing is, even though it happened to me, I never knew how widespread it was, I just thought we were passed around my city, like there was a big group of them where I lived. Ive been trying to forget this shit for years, everytime it crops up I feel guilty for not reporting. I just wanted to forget. Its still happening. Go multiculturalism!!

It's happening in Cardiff and I'm so grateful that I got away relatively unscathed. Reading this has made me feel so sick.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/30/child-sexual-exploitation-offences-quadruple-report-greater-manchester

There were 714 new cases reported in Greater Manchester in 2016 alone. Which really is just the tip of the iceberg..

The crimes aren't isolated incidents, they are ongoing and still happening now across the country. More and more victims, are coming forward each year. So these crimes are still actively ongoing despite convictions.

I believe the Government asks the media to downplay and under report these crimes, because the figures are horrific.

And to add, the figure 714 is cases reported. It doesn't state how many were actively investigated or say how many convictions resulted from those 714 reports.

definitelyanamechange, I know exactly what you mean. don't feel sick, it wasn't your fault. cardiff, London, Liverpool, Rochdale, Rotherham, Newcastle, Yorkshire, its been going on decades, still is

Lola
Thank you for posting. It's just so important that we remember that the victims and survivors are not numbers, but real people. Strength and sorrow to you for your experiences.

Thanks lola

There is a current inquiry but my understanding is that it doesn’t have the power to look into whether those in authority, ie, the police and local council, were complicit in covering up the scandal and whether they should be prosecuted for their actions. That is why the Telford MP is calling for an independent inquiry.

Basically we need to keep talking about what is happening across the UK and put pressure on the government to do something about it.

Rowdy: They did nothing when I was abused as an 8 year old by a white man..

So all this shows up is what has surfaced time and time again over the years

Our "protection" services are not interested in protecting, and have actively acted against the interests of vulnerable people multiple times
Our institutions are racist, classist & misogynist
Our institutions are not really, and TBH haven't ever really, been interested in sex crimes against women and girls over a certain age, finding it hard to actually see any crime being committed, and engaging in extreme victim blaming

We live in a racists society and these gangs are now being uncovered.
I dread to think what else is going on that has yet to be revealed.

Pattern? What pattern? I see no pattern. No, definitely not.....

Here's the thing. Certain offences often have offender profiles. Most sex offences have the profile of "white, middle-aged, male" - institutional abuse, sports club abuse, stalking, etc etc etc. All "white, middle-aged male". One sex offence from all the others, on street grooming, has a profile of "Asian male".

I see no reason why this shouldn't be spoken of. Just as we know that almost all sex offenders are male, we also know that most institutional abusers (teachers, priests, etc) will be white and most on street groomers will be Asian.

Observing and recording offender patterns is a good thing for prevention.

Agree.

UK background men are also very keen on child sex tourism.

The ways they offend are different.

I suspect that racism works in favour of white offenders as well.

At which point maybe we need to say the primary factors here are misogyny and classism. Plus a view of children (male and female) as unreliable.

Insofar as abuse of boys has been going full steam ahead for decades as well in care homes, schools, religious outfits & sports clubs. & more I expect.

I suspect that UK abusers are better at hiding it / more subtle, and they have the benefit of being "upstanding" etc a lot of the time.

This ALL needs to come out.

This ALL needs to come out.

It does. And there have been mutterings for years about it going through every level of society in a way that’s so endemic it’d probably bring down several institutions. But nothing ever quite gets done does it? ‘Kitty’, haute la guerenne (sp) rumblings of political involvement.
There are powerful people involved. Note that none of the perps in the grooming ring scandals has these sort of connections and so they can be safely exposed.
It makes you wonder how far up and how widespread it actually is . I suspect all the way and very arebthe answers. I wonder if there will ever be full exposure?

It does all need to come out but there think different tools for different situations. The men involved in the Telford sex abuse are not rich or powerful. Why were the authorities so reluctant to act? I think it’s a key point. If the police had cracked down on this behavior decades ago, it would be a very different situation, I think. I don’t understand why they didn’t act.

Agree.

haute la guerenne - that was horrifying and had "cover up" written all over it

Yes. Offenders against boys? Profile is white male.

It's not racist to point out that certain offences have race profiles.

It's racist to suggest that the one sex offence whose offender profile is not white means all Asian men are sex offenders and the only sex offences we should be worried about are those committed by Asian men.

Two very different things.

Shadow - because they couldn't see any crime being committed

They saw out of control girls who they viewed as little tarts, doing what they wanted and making trouble for others.

Misogyny is the key to this one.

But not just misogyny, I think. I think race is also an important aspect as others have said. A mixture of the two perhaps. But this is the issue, if there are no consequences for the men then they will continue. If there is no protection for the girls, then things will continue. Things were supposed to have improved in the police after Rotherham but yet it continues on. Not just the police but the local council and social workers too.