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Yet another abuse of girls scandal in Telford going on for 40 years!

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rowdywoman1 · 11/03/2018 21:00

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/britains-worst-ever-child-grooming-12165527

Up to 1,000 girls repeatedly abused for up to 40 years in Telford. What on earth have the police and other organisations been doing?

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FencingFightingTorture35 · 12/03/2018 15:37

This just appalls me on every level. We need to value girls much more. We need to look after children in care much better. The courts need to get much tougher on men who abuse.

The whole system is a joke currently.

Parsley1234 · 12/03/2018 16:24

I had another Sikh girl who had been hit by her father who ended up in foster care in Slough her mum found out she was working as a prostitute and took pictures of her working and being dropped off By her childrens home care workers social services said it was her choice !
The same girl was gang raped over 5 days when she went to her social worker and then told to go to the GUM clinic not the police she was 13.
i met her when she was 16 I offered to have her as a placement so she cd go to college and Uni - she was bright her social worker fought me all the way they wanted her in a bandb not in education. it resulted in her Social worker reporting me to social services as I had her staying here. The local social worker who came to assess me couldn’t believe it they’d never seen such rubbish said all to force me to relinquish her.
no one knew what was happening with these girls they were said to be prostituites but they weren’t - social services were inept. When the Sikh girl got representation from the law society her solicitor told me I wd never foster again and sure enough I was constructively dismissed for doing the right thing. It made me realise just how much power agencies and social services have its money and who a lot of the time.

OvaHere · 12/03/2018 18:08

This is so appalling but sadly not surprising. I think anyone with any knowledge of the care system is aware how easily they are exploited.

Really metoo is the tip of the iceberg of women and girls who feel able to speak out.

TallulahBetty · 12/03/2018 18:10

Can't get over the scale of this. Telford is not a big place at all.

SnibbleAgain · 12/03/2018 18:25

Parsley thank you for your posts, the insider POV is invaluable,

What a fucking appalling bunch

They should be done for child neglect TBH

Actively preventing young girls who are being trafficked raped etc from getting help. Making sure those who try to help are sacked / silenced (we've seen this in the previous reports, whistleblowers sacked).

Just WTF do they think they're playing at.

SnibbleAgain · 12/03/2018 18:25

Thank you for helping and for trying to help x

StealthPolarBear · 12/03/2018 18:35

Parsley wish I hadn't read that, I feel sick. You can hold your head high, thank you.

choli · 12/03/2018 20:40

I've said this here before but a friend of mine spent a couple of years in London as a teenage runaway living in squats in the late 80s. These gangs were around at the time, they'd hang around the bus and train stations looking for vulnerable girls to prey on. My friend was warned about them by the other girls. This was THIRTY years ago and the police were doing nothing.

Pimps have always hung around train and bus stations looking for vulnerable girls in many countries. It's the easiest place to find the runaways and the "throw away" children.

Gitta Sereny's book The Invisible Children: Child Prostitution in America, West Germany and Great Britain (1984) addresses this, and the many ways pimps emotionally manipulate girls into prostitution.

rowdywoman1 · 12/03/2018 20:49

These children have never been at the top of anyone's priorities. The fact that these levels of abuse are happening in every city, in plain sight, is evidence of this.

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KochabRising · 12/03/2018 20:57

It’s happened and is still happening everywhere. I’m from quite close to Rotherham and we’d been saying for years that this was going on.

No one seemed to care - young girls from often troubled homes are seen as complicit Jezebels rather than desperately vulnerable victims. Add in the reluctance to be seen as racist and general misogynistic behaviour plus classist prejudice and it’s a toxic mix. I had school friends groomed like this. No one in authority gave a toss.

This is just the tip of the iceberg - they’ve been caught because they’re not connected or protected. The real scandal is going to be the extent of of CSA right up the power ladder. That will cross both sexes as well.

catterpillarchrsalisbutterfly · 12/03/2018 21:02

Our authorities have entirely let down the most vulnerable and already victimised people in our society.

I am not remotely surprised at this. I am a respectable, professional, middle class mother and I received what I can only describe as what I considered to be extremely derisory treatment at the hands of a UK police force when trying to report it.

Utterly shocking behaviour - complete lack of communication, waiting months and months to investigate. Refusal to explain how they had filed the report or their rationale behind it.

I have had to work ridiculously hard to try to be heard by the police, going through official channels: an official complaint, a data protection request in an attempt just to understand what on earth they have done with my report (I still don't know the answer, they haven't engaged with me in several weeks).

What chance does a vulnerable child from a chaotic background stand?

catterpillarchrsalisbutterfly · 12/03/2018 21:03

Sorry, to clarify, I reported a rape within the last six months and the above has been the 'outcome' if you can call it that.

Snowmagedon · 12/03/2018 21:06

How can a 13 year old be working as a Confused prostitute... She has been groomed and abused!!

Cunstancemarkiewicz · 12/03/2018 21:08

choli yes of course young vulnerable people have always been abused, no-one is saying otherwise. The men my friend referred to were of the same background as the many gangs recently convicted of historic systematic abuse throughout the UK and their victims were white teenage girls. Their methods were the same, and the reasons they weren't prosecuted were the same- fear of racism, misguided social services, sexist police who thought the girls were slags.

Snowmagedon · 12/03/2018 21:09

I've already told did the main thing anyone says to a child is anything to makes the keep quiet.
I didn't go into any ins and outs she is too young but she saw some of news article on something else so I tried to get across to her.. Anyone who would harm a child would then try and stop that child form telling.

They could threaten the child say their parents will come to harm, try and blame her the child etc but all of it is a tool to stop her the child talking and the child must tell someone.
I hope if I can arm her like this she would if she was ever in this position she would know what they he would be doing.

choli · 12/03/2018 21:31

They could threaten the child say their parents will come to harm, try and blame her the child etc
And of course the unfortunately usually very true "No one will believe you".

DNAnotGRA · 12/03/2018 21:37

Are you actually surprised at the media cover up? The paedophile gangs have been operating in this country for at least 5 decades that I know about

Shadow666 · 12/03/2018 21:45

It's the scale of it that's so shocking. This isn't a small number of children who have fallen through the cracks. It's massive and systematic.

The Telford MP Lucy Allan has called for an inquiry into what happened. I hope it happens.

StealthPolarBear · 12/03/2018 21:59

Isn't there already an inquiry? The one that had all the problems. That needs to get going

DNAnotGRA · 12/03/2018 22:01

Rotherham is also a small town, yet suffered 1600 abuse cases that are known and reported thus far, many more to come....

Parsley1234 · 12/03/2018 22:39

It was so shocking what happened to the Sikh child I lost my placement at university I lost my placement in a drug centre where I had met her I had myself investigated for being an unfit mother can you imagine the terror of having a referral made to social services at 445 on a Friday afternoon knowing you could speak to no one until Monday. The girls laywer told me that was how social services operated that if anyone opposed their position they put pressure on that person it was like living in a parallel universe. The worst thing was though when social services realised I wdnt give her up they agreed a care plan for her with me but my social worker glos could not support it because her social services slough had made a formal complaint against me so I was put between a rock and a hard place I couldn’t take her without support for myself. They knew what they were doing and the week after I was asked for my resignation. I had so many files and documents I went everywhere to be heard and no one listened it was terrible. The young girl has now been radicalised joined Islam married to a much older man depressing

terfing · 12/03/2018 22:45

Certain news outlets are suspiciously downplaying this story... AngrySad

catterpillarchrsalisbutterfly · 12/03/2018 22:48

Yes but an overpaid footballer spat at a young girl (NOT OK) and whether or not he will keep his job is more interesting than the degradation and abuse of hundreds of girls, terfing.

catterpillarchrsalisbutterfly · 12/03/2018 22:52

Pasrsley, I'm so sorry you had that experience :(

I work with a lady from Leicester who is Sikh and said that grooming gangs are known to target her community.

Just googled it and it looks like they're easy prey as families discourage reporting due to 'honour' and marriagability

biscuitmillionaire · 12/03/2018 22:54

I think it's downplayed because it's a Mirror investigation, and not 'new' news. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-43371805

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