Biological SEX MATTERS. How many mumsnetters say "aye" to this campaign?

[SexMatters]

This document and campaign called 'Sex Matters' is a collaborative effort by amazing and knowledgeable mumsnetters on a couple of threads in FWR.

To move forward with the campaign, the organisations and individuals approached will need to know who is behind it, and the honest truth, is that mumsnetters have spearheaded it.

That does not mean that other campaigners can't get involved or even take greater ownership of it. But it needs a bio in order to introduce it to people and organisations to get started and I need your consent to describe the campaign this way: 'mumsnetter led' (and maybe even some suggestions for writing a bio on this thread).

So, you amazing gender-critical mumsnetters, do you say 'aye'?

I'm not prepared to settle for giving up all single sex spaces except those where my personal safety is at risk

Yup

Avoiding feeling embarrassed should be a good enough reason as avoiding feeling unsafe.

Look, this is a REALLY trivial point, but I've started volunteering for an animal rescue.

Some of the dogs histories specify that they cannot be rehomed with men because of past trauma.

Not much point asking for 'gender' on the application forms. I suspect the dogs don't give a stuff about the gender of their new owner but can identify their sex.

Thanks Longines I can see what you are saying. But some people, especially if they normally cover their hair in front of men, will feel really grateful for single-sex salon.

I wouldn't need it personally, but that doesn't make me want to end the provision for the people who would choose it.

Wrt bookgroups, etc - when matters of sexual violence, etc come up, it will be really uncomfortable for a lot of people of either sex to voice their actual opinions/experiences in those situations, so it is important that for those people who do want to choose a single-sex group, they can.

None of this campaign is mandating sex-segregation though - it is opposing mandatory unisex inclusion.

Some people will feel some of the issues are trivial and some will find them highly significant, that's why it is important there is choice. And important to campaign against the erosion of those choices.

I do believe, passionately, that there should be spaces and opportunities that are just for women.

So do I Seek, which is why I also say Aye.

A bit conflicted on this, sorry.

I really can’t sign anything about ‘segregation’. I also don’t want to sign anything re single sex education. Single sex education is often cover for teaching girls less.

I am with you in spirit but caouldn’t go along with this document.

dodo that is not trivial. I am sure dogs can sense the sex pheromones and other cues. Sex matters!

Aye

Is that you Guardian?

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Thanks anyway buttered - however statistics show girls tend to do better in single-sex education.

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I'm uncomfortable with having the genuine safety issues for women raised by self-ID being lumped together with far more trivial things like bookgroups or the hairdressers.

Whilst they may be trivial to you, and probably are to most women, for some, Muslims for instance or those with MH issues, being included in social situations safe in the knowledge that there are no males present, may be far from trivial.

No one is saying you can't visit a unisex salon, or join a mixed book group, just that a few people might want that choice for sound reasons.

Why aye.

Aye

Aye

It's a massive AYE from me and thank you for writing this

Aye

Aye. 1000 times.

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aye