Biological SEX MATTERS. How many mumsnetters say "aye" to this campaign?

[SexMatters]

This document and campaign called 'Sex Matters' is a collaborative effort by amazing and knowledgeable mumsnetters on a couple of threads in FWR.

To move forward with the campaign, the organisations and individuals approached will need to know who is behind it, and the honest truth, is that mumsnetters have spearheaded it.

That does not mean that other campaigners can't get involved or even take greater ownership of it. But it needs a bio in order to introduce it to people and organisations to get started and I need your consent to describe the campaign this way: 'mumsnetter led' (and maybe even some suggestions for writing a bio on this thread).

So, you amazing gender-critical mumsnetters, do you say 'aye'?

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Unisex anything is going to mean certain people who I look after can’t visit because they are scared of men.

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Aye, and very well done.

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Truescum

No one in my support group believes they or I are actually women either.

Thanks. This cannot be voiced enough!

We suffer from a mental disorder characterised by our intense hatred of our own bodies, not a desire to wear heels.

And this too!

Funnily enough the only ‘trans’ people I see spouting this are usually the same ones proud to post shots of their erect penis in women’s underwear on Twitter.

And this!

I hope your support group helps you all to love yourselves better.

Aye aye captain!

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Aye. Very good document OP.

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I’m for it.

Have a read through ofbhe language on the last page though - you might want to find a different word for ‘abnormalities.’ You are correct in a genetic sense but this will be picked up on and used emotionally.

SexDOES matter. Not in most every day situations, but in some situations that some people might encounter. And in those situations it's vital that women have the legal right to say 'No I will not share with a biological male.'

I agree. But I don't think those important situations where it actually matters should extend to things like hobbies and friendship groups. Not least as no-one is legislating on who private bookgroups can invite, or on who anyone can be friends with.

Personally, I'm uncomfortable with having the genuine safety issues for women raised by self-ID being lumped together with far more trivial things like bookgroups or the hairdressers.

Which is fine as this document represents other people's views, not mine.

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I feel the move towards unisex everything should at the very least be named for what it is.

Why pretend women's anything is still women's anything anymore when men are so blatantly included.

Can we just be honest about it???

Aye, and I disagree that the less safety-orientated examples are taken out. They're all important in various ways to various people and I'm not prepared to settle for giving up all single sex spaces except those where my personal safety is at risk.

(Also agree moving to _chat for more traffic)