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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

This is what Helen from Mermaids writes about MN feminist posters

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 25/02/2018 12:05

"If you’re a Mum and on mn that often to have time to engage with ‘feminist’ forums, you’re more likely to be a ‘stay at home mum’. These are bored middle-class women putting their privileged Uni-educated thoughts to oppressing a small, vulnerable, oppressed sector of society"

Nice bit of sexism going on there

twitter.com/mimmymum/status/967731110322036736

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DickTERFin · 26/02/2018 22:05

MyUnicorn Grin

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 26/02/2018 22:07

Yeah I certainly don't think it's sweetness and light here. Grin

But there are communities of like minded people. I assume if I went over to the Doghouse I'd find there are accepted ways of behaving. I think that's what they meant.

And I'm paraphrasing. It just struck me that they used one example - us.

DarthArts · 26/02/2018 22:11

MyUnicorn

😂😂😂😂

I have been known to buy 2 chickens for Sunday dinner - I'm an abomination Blush

AskBasil · 26/02/2018 22:33

What can I say to annoy?

Oh I know... people who won't let their sons play with dolls, are seriously sexist, stupid arseholes.

GoodyMog · 26/02/2018 22:36

MyUnicorn Grin

But yeah, if they actually bothered to read MN instead of relying on sexist stereotypes (they really do like those don't they?) they'd see how it's nearly impossible to get a consensus on anything here - even the subjects you'd expect to be utterly uncontroversial. It's not a forum full of pushovers who are easily led.

Mogleflop · 26/02/2018 22:43

I'm pretty sure you could get torn to shreds on AIBU by posting something like "I like sunsets".

Datun · 26/02/2018 22:54

Mogleflop

Lord. They think mumsnet has suddenly been overtaken by a load of random radfems?

MN has been hot on this issue for years!

And yes, I sincerely hope they do make a fuss to ASDA. Or any other advertisers.

I'd love to see those headlines. As soon as they give mumsnet the oxygen of publicity, more and more people arrive and see the arguments.

It would be a definite coup to get our quotes in print.

Plus people reading for themselves about parents promoting gender nonconformity. Worried about the sterilisation of children. Concerned that a sexual fetish is about to be legitimised, on the back of men with gender dysphoria.

Stats debunked, autogynephilia finally out in the open, terfisasur website presented to the entire country.

They really don't connect the dots.

The reason they don't come on here is because they have no sustainable argument. And we do. And yet, they want to push our profile as high as they can!

Bring it on.

They really, really are the supreme masters of the own goal.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 26/02/2018 23:07

Datun

I love you

Have some Gin

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OrderOnline · 26/02/2018 23:20

It was a Mum from NCT that first started me down the non gender road (I had enjoyed boys toys myself as a child) she gave her son a doll to play with, initially there were raised eyebrows, eventually all the boys joined in. She wasn't university educated or middle-class, she was a former nanny. This was back in the day when Lego was red, blue, white and yellow.

Datun · 26/02/2018 23:25

I love you too APAB

Grin
Terftastic · 26/02/2018 23:34

I love you all Wine

They can try to shut down Mumsnet - many have tried and failed in the past.

Hey TRAs - we've had Matt from F4J setting fire to his underpants in M&S in protest, we've had hackers and SWATTING. We've had mass invasions, and DDOS attacks. We're still here, still talking.

Datun · 26/02/2018 23:51

I do believe it was the SWAT team that first alerted me to mumsnet.

The old adage really is true, in this case. There's no such thing as bad publicity.

It just makes people wander over for a recce.

OrderOnline · 26/02/2018 23:53

Ah Jeffrey yes, I remember. Swatted a Nanny and the DH of a Mumsnetter.

Terftastic · 27/02/2018 00:08

Swatted Justine's nanny.

mamaryllis · 27/02/2018 05:22

Forgive me Mermaids for I have sinned. I didn’t cart my son off to Thailand for breastfeeding his dollies. I.... let him.
I feel terrible. I mean, he’s 16 now, so his surgery is overdue. And all those years of refusing to force him to eschew the feminine. He learned to walk in Barbie shoes. With heels. And wore a tutu for about four years. Shit. I even let him do ballet. He danced for 13 years. What the actual fuck was I thinking ?!
Oh yeah. I remember. Gender stereotyping is bollocks. He’s a boy. Any kid can play with dollies. And the dance came in really handy for picking up the laydeez.
Transing children on the basis of toy choice is absolutely abuse. It’s so half wittedly thick as mince ‘afraid to catch The Gay’ that it’s a stereotype in and of itself.
I feel a bit sick that people actually sterilize kids because they believe this shit.

AskBasil · 27/02/2018 07:03

Lor I just remembered that my DS had a little ironing board and iron set when he was about 3.

My uncle went mental. "Don't let him play with that! He's a boy! He can't play with that!"

Little did I know that what I mistook as ridiculous sexist gender policing, was actually cutting edge progressive ideology. And that DS's enjoyment of that little toy, was a sign that he wasn't really a boy after all, but a girl.

He seems to have changed back into a boy again in the meantime, although he does have the ability to analyse his feelings, so then again, perhaps he is a woman after all?

AngryAttackKittens · 27/02/2018 07:31

So does she both read and type very very slowly? Because most of us manage to hold down jobs and be on the internet and have relationships and hobbies outside of that.

Not our fault that she's bad at time management!

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 27/02/2018 07:50

I didn't know about the F4J underpants on fire. Further details? It sounds very amusing alarming.

Fekko · 27/02/2018 08:05

Was he lying at the time?

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 27/02/2018 08:09

F4J set their pants on fire?

I would pay good money to see that.

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AngryAttackKittens · 27/02/2018 08:10

Wait, I knew about the M&S incident, but was it to do with Mumset? Seems like just the existence of a site called mumsnet would enrage F4J.

Ereshkigal · 27/02/2018 08:33

What statement were they trying to make with that?

BeyondDeadlySiren · 27/02/2018 08:37

Dunno but (like fekko) my immediate thought is -
liar liar pants on fire > f4j are the kind of men who are big fibbers

creaturefeatures · 27/02/2018 09:13

Wow. Very sexist (unsurprisingly).

FWIW...I'm not a Mum, I'm working class and I work full time in a senior role in the City.

holycheeseplant · 27/02/2018 09:21

Wow. She's tweeted in support of the transw teen wrestler who obviously beat all the girls. She really, really doesn't get any of it. I feel so sorry for her actually.