Evidence of misandry on Feminist chat.

[UpstartCrow]

The last few days, there have been several claims of misandry on Feminist Chat. Please post examples here using a link and screen shot.

Thank you.

You are an MRA, prat. You can't hide it. Everything you've said here is what MRAs say.

Misandry has no context, because women don't hold the power. You're moaning about male tears mugs - when the majority of positions of power, the wealth, the privilege are still held by men.

We are going to take Maya Angelou's advice, prat. Now that you have shown us who you are, we are going to believe you.

If male suicide is your concern - then I have no argument with that, but suggest that you consult men's mental health groups, rather than try to bludgeon women whom you demonise as feminists!

Terftastic

But the statistics around male suicide don't lie.

Call me an MRA or whatever you like (I don't care) but the prevalence of men in lofty positions doesn't negate the issues faced by the huge number that kill themselves.

What context do you need? Men are killing themselves at 4x the rate of women and you're wilfully diminishing it due to the presence of some rich white males, who also make up a tiny, extremely privileged proportion of the male population. That's the context.

Even if the wealthiest are men by average, they don't constitute the average man.

My best friend's brother (a close childhood friend of mine) deliberately burned himself to death in his car after an argument with his boyfriend. True story which I doubt you'll believe.

I'm sure his family thought "it's ok, there are loads of rich men out there."

Did you actually read what I said?

Women attempt suicide more than men.

People who want to die generally don't attempt suicide, but I've pretty much said all I've got to say tbh.

But... you still haven’t mentioned Erin’s dog?!

But why can't men sort out these problems for themselves? Why are you expecting women to sort out your problems for you? Why can't men solve these problems for themselves and other men, without making women falsely responsible for them?

Why can't you take responsibility for your own stuff, instead of expecting women to take on the shit in your own life?

I don't expects feminists to deal with men's problems, just to not actively try and obstruct men dealing with them. And I'm not talking about 'women' I'm talking about feminists.

I'd also ask why it's my responsibility to deal with the small number of men who commit violent crime, or even call out misogynistic behaviour (which I nonetheless do because I hate it). I don't catcall women or rape them etc so why is it my problem?

So you're moving the goalposts again!
We anticipated that anyway!
We do know, by now, how MRAs operate!

No you're not - you're talking about women. You are dismissive of all women. You've just shown it in your last statement about women's suicide.

You just think think you can hide your misogyny if you say 'feminists' - while misrepresenting what a feminist is.

Lots of 'attempted suicides' are cries for help. That's what I meant. You don't fail in jumping off a high rise carpark which is what a surprising number of young men actually did at the shopping centres I used to help manage security at.

I know that's what you meant. You're accusing women of attention seeking cries for help. Dismissive. You'll be calling us hysterical next.

I didn't say that but I agree that less men will reach out in any way for help before killing themselves. The statistics bear this out.

Two dead women per week in the UK, killed by men.

Women killed by men. Two per week.

Do you have anything to say about that?

This is true - the boys don't cry, strong man thing that men are taught, socialised with.

You know - the sort of gender stereotypes that feminists have spent decades trying to break down.

Men are less likely to talk about their emotions, less likely to seek help, more likely to choose a violent suicide method.

This is not feminist's fault.

Nobody's even mentioned suicide on this thread, let alone laughed at it, Prat - you shocking straw man builder you.

He's got a whole straw army awaiting deployment.

I mentioned suicide. It's one of the principle issues targeted by men's rights events which are often protested by feminists as in my York Uni comment.

I don't hate all feminists at all but there seems to be an odd aversion to calling out the toxic ones. At least MRAs will emphasise NAMALT.

*I'm a feminist"

There has been much misandry in feminism and feminists often actively fight against initiatives intended to address men's issues solely for the reason that 'women have it worse' it seems.

I don't come onto forums like this to berate feminists but I saw this thread about misandry and once again it seemed that feminists were trying to deny its existence. I know I'm mentioning typical MRA tropes, but male violence is the archetypal feminist trope. Neither should be dismissed as insignificant.

Behold, the MRA pretending not to be one on a feminist site lifecycle.

PS Christina Hoff Summers is not a feminist. The only people who think she is, and reference her as such, are MRA. So, if you were trying to be subtle there...

Christina HS was writing books on feminism before the phrase MRA even existed! She just seems to have been written out for her critique of modern feminists.

At least MRAs will emphasise NAMALT.

Of course they will That's their raison d'être.

They will try to tell us that there are 2 men in the whole world who commit all the rapes, and they have fangs and horns - and drag women into alleyways. And everything else is just women regretting it the next day.

Christina HS was writing books on feminism before the phrase MRA even existed! She just seems to have been written out for her critique of modern feminists.

No she wasn't.

Male violence is the greatest human rights crisis the world has ever known. The only people men kill more often than women are men.
Men kill men and men kill women and men kill themselves.
Male violence is the greatest human rights crisis the world has ever known.