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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Brendan Cox has resigned

208 replies

RedToothBrush · 17/02/2018 22:40

Brendan Cox @ mrbrendancox
Last week I decided to step down from my public roles to face up to mistakes I made several years ago while at Save the Children. I apologise to people I offended or upset at the time. My actions were never malicious but they were at times inappropriate.
I take responsibility for my actions and will hold myself to a higher standard in the future.

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jo-cox-husband-brendan-cox-step-down-charity-a8215951.html%3famp
Brendan Cox steps down from charity set up in murdered wife Jo’s memory over 'mistakes I made several years ago'

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allthatmalarkey · 18/02/2018 11:15

Gobbolino I'm not trying to make it less serious. I'm pointing out that there are other men out there who have got away with similar. There are an awful lot of people who've seen rape/sexual assault complaints dropped. If the outcome of witch hunting individuals on the whim of powerful news organisations with an axe to grind is that they are more likely to face come back, that would be a good thing, but not an especially just way of achieving it. I'm too long in the tooth to believe that this is the moment the system genuinely changes, but maybe if there are enough stories and we don't let it just be this year's way of dispatching some inconvenient people, maybe it could be.

governess · 18/02/2018 11:16

He needs to get out of the limelight asap, and work on repairing his mind, body and soul. Making it up to his kids and his wifes family - let alone his own family.

The worst thing in all of this - is that he was seem as the shining light, the role model for all things good etc. The number of times he has spoken in public quite loudly re other peoples behaviour, anyone who isnt a Labour supporter etc - and all along he was really something completely different - the direct opposite in fact.

There will no doubt be a story coming out about his mental health issues, depression, alcohol etc etc. There is a name for people that expect very high standards in others whilst not being able to reach those same standards.....

LifelongVaginaOwner · 18/02/2018 11:20

And now we have the sight of Labour women on Twitter excusing his behaviour or admiring the fact he’s facing up to it. FFS he’s ‘facing up to it’ because it was splashed all over the Mail.

birdsdestiny · 18/02/2018 11:22

It is irrelevant if you think its a right wing media conspiracy. We can't have different expectations for men with the same political leanings as us. He did it and got caught. The rest of it is meaningless. I am relieved that the charity can now flourish without his name, despite strongly supporting its aims I couldn't support it with him there. Now I can.

Viviennemary · 18/02/2018 11:25

He should be prosecuted for assault then. If he grabbed somebody by the throat. Which is extremely serious. It's the hysteria of he's vile, he's a monster. If he is then he should be locked up instead of a load of hand wringing.

CritEqual · 18/02/2018 11:29

The very notion that he is reformable, and deep down is just suffering and needs to sort himself out is objectionable.

What is happening is the right is figuring out that a lot of tactics the left employs such as those outlined in Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals are perfectly serviceable and work just as well for the right.

I am going to be charitable to the left here in I don't think they are as hypocrtical as they look. What has happened is the left have become incredibly intellectually flabby, and are thus far more reliant on PR and thus individual personalities have become more important than the arguments. So they are genuinely more terrified that the loss of an individual on the field means the loss of the argument.

I'm think we all trully want to see the end of sexual assault and harassment, but the left are all too often felt pushed into a literal deal with the devil.

nauticant · 18/02/2018 11:36

Without excusing him, sexual harassment is everywhere, but Brendan Cox is one man. I could literally throw a stick and find an employer where there has been some sexual harassment, so why has the Daily Mail singled him out?

On balance I can stomach more "sexual abuse isn't that serious really" coming from the right than I can "sexual abuse is very serious but if the abuser is one of ours we must think about their fine character" coming from the left.

CaptainCardamom · 18/02/2018 11:36

I first used the phrase "coming on to other women" but I was making the point that he thinks to do that is OK in a marriage, in principle, as he hasn't even mentioned the inappropriateness of that in itself. But I wasn't describing what he actually is alleged to have done in that way.

He knew he had these skeletons in the cupboard, so why did he go for the public profile and interviews and being on the boards of charities? He could have just let other people take charge and laid low. He's only remorseful now it's public.

allthatmalarkey · 18/02/2018 11:46

I agree it shouldn't be about left right point scoring but then why was it the Daily Mail? Who have a longstanding issue with Brendan Cox. They were the ones who resourced investigating him, why didn't anybody else?
And the left should never have lionised him, he looked dodgy when the Daily Mail first tried to rehash the STC allegations after Jo Cox's murder. Her poor family and kids.

Viviennemary · 18/02/2018 11:46

Let's see if the usual mealie mouthed leftie feminists speak out. Like Harriet Harman. I bet she doesn't. But she's quick enough to point her finger at anybody in other parties dares to make a step out of line.

CritEqual · 18/02/2018 11:58

I'm conservative but I'd rather focus on the allegations rather than the left bashing. Can we stop pretending these sorts of men aren't ubiquitous across the political spectrum?

flapsDentata · 18/02/2018 12:19

I’m mostly angry about the moral relativism. Lucy Powell is a moron.

Brendan Cox has resigned
Frombothsidesnow · 18/02/2018 12:20

It's unimpressive behaviour on her part definitely.

CaptainCardamom · 18/02/2018 12:21

At first I thought why the Mail - but then I thought what can happen is the paper approaches the person and says they're going to do a massive splash about them - or they can co-operate and give an interview about it where they come clean.

CaptainCardamom · 18/02/2018 12:25

I'm a longstanding lefty (but not Labour member or Corbynite, just politically left) - I have never ever been under the illusion that abusive behaviour and harassment from men doesn't happen among left-wing types. I'm flabbergasted anyone would think that. I've known a lot of lefty men - twats, egotists, massive sexists/misogynists, harassers and abusers are well-represented.

Frombothsidesnow · 18/02/2018 12:26

Indeed. The things that most sexual harassers have in common is that they're men.

allthatmalarkey · 18/02/2018 12:46

Agree with you Captain. I think it feels like greater hypocrisy when someone who has supposedly supported equality issues, eg Weinstein, turns out to be part of the problem. Not sure that Trump being honest about being a twat makes him any better though.

SuburbanRhonda · 18/02/2018 13:00

He should be prosecuted for assault then.

You really are quite spectacularly missing the point here, aren’t you, @viviennemary?

nauticant · 18/02/2018 13:04

Just heard on the news a report from Jo Cox's sister that her family will continue to support Brendan Cox. Poor people, they don't have much choice do they?

Frombothsidesnow · 18/02/2018 13:06

I think people close to the family, and I would include potentially Lucy Powell in that but I don't think she should be doing it, will be looking to minimise this publicly for the sake of his children. We don't know what is being said in private.

Lottapianos · 18/02/2018 13:06

That's what I thought too nauticant. He's the father of her niece and nephew who I'm sure she loves dearly. What a horrible position for her to be in

LizzieSiddal · 18/02/2018 13:25

From I agree with you re minimisation for the sake of the children. I really don’t blame them.

Popchyk · 18/02/2018 13:30

Well, he is also the one who controls access to the children.

Piss him off and her family might be frightened of never seeing the children again.

So, they pretty much have to keep on his good side. Too much at stake otherwise.

Thisusernamethingistricky · 18/02/2018 13:36

How awful for Jo's family. They basically have no choice but to support him Sad

LizzieSiddal · 18/02/2018 13:57

Exactly ThisUserName Sad

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