Should the T be in LGBT?

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Not sure where I should post this, but Feminist Chat seems to be the main area where trans issues are discussed, and where there are L and T posters contributing.

Should T be included in LGB, given that T tries to erase L and G?

Should T be included in LGB, given that L, G and B (and all the other sexualities) are about how people relate to other people, whereas T is about how people relate to themselves?

They just want to separate them from valuable support networks and marginalise them within their own communities

What valuable support networks do people want them separated from? Is it by any chance women's sex segregated services like refuges?

I agree it shouldn't and was just having this conversation. Weird I think.

They just want to separate them from valuable support networks and marginalise them within their own communities

What valuable support networks do people want them separated from? Is it by any chance women's sex segregated services like refuges?

This quotation-and-comment post did not make any sense to me, and I had to search back to find the original post being quoted to understand that They just want to separate them from valuable support networks and marginalise them within their own communities referred to the poster's perceptions of gender-critical attitudes to TIMs.

In fact They just want to separate them from valuable support networks and marginalise them within their own communities reads to me to be precisely TIMs' attitude to lesbians!

Of all the information you can have about someone, the single best predictor of whether or not they are a threat is whether or not they have a penis.

This is an observation, not an opinion. But it's an observation that every woman knows in her bones.

LGB became LGBT through a feeling of kinship and empathy.
Unknowingly this opened the door to a load of straight blokes, heterosexuals in lipstick, who unsurprisingly made it all about them. Taking over, becoming aggressive, closing down lesbian groups who strangely didn't want straight blokes coming in, removing the word "gay" from Gay Pride, banning drag queens from Gay Pride, accusing lesbians of bigotry for not wanting to sleep with them, and endless list of homophobic aggressions, all the while reverse-victiming and other manipulative tactics.

Hardly a support network for homosexuals anymore is it.