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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

#itsallgoingpeaktrans

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iamawoman · 04/02/2018 20:45

Just wanted to say that😀

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Winefred · 06/02/2018 14:21

I think it was the 100-years-of-women-voting trailer I keep seeing on the telly where they go through what women were told they could not do, and it fades into what we can do. Anyway, there's a bit where they pop a transgender into the frame as if this was an achievement for women (and f knows how that is linked to women's votes). There. That was my peak 'moment.

PositivelyPERF · 06/02/2018 16:44

Anyway, there's a bit where they pop a transgender into the frame as if this was an achievement for women I found myself shouting fuck off at the tv, when that came on. This is a group of men who, along with their handmaidens, constantly bleat on about being a tiny minority, yet how the fuck come they are so over represented on tv?

PositivelyPERF · 06/02/2018 16:47

There are more TIMs on tv, than women with visable disabilities, but men and their handmaidens fucking bleat that we need feminism to be intersectional!

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 06/02/2018 16:54

a lot of it has to be misogynist/homophobic troll noise

But if true, this just proves that men who hate women will cheerfully pose as transgender in order to frighten and upset us. Why assume they won't come and troll us in person once they can enter women's spaces with ease?

sexnotgender · 06/02/2018 17:01

I peaked a couple of months ago but my peak gets higher every fucking day.

IW really boiled my piss yesterday.

Ekphrasis · 06/02/2018 18:04

There's a lot of whataboutery about.

IW and that bloke who shouted at Rose.

thebewilderness · 06/02/2018 18:47

LadyMcLadyCrisps
Dozens of posts like that on tumblr were how I found out that men and trans identified males masturbate in women's cubicles as part of their dominance fetish. I was blissfully ignorant of this particular porn inspired fetish until some d00d was arrested for masturbating into the samples he handed out at Costco.
MN put the Mike's friend thread back up after examining it for whatever they examine posts for.

picklemepopcorn · 06/02/2018 18:56

A bloke was charged recently after they found cctv of him ejaculating into a female colleague's food kept in the shared fridge, and ejaculating on her mouse, chair etc. She began to get suspicious and and asked HR to check the cctv.

iamawoman · 06/02/2018 19:18

Popcorn wish you hadnt drawn my attention to that image. Men are beasts!!

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Freshlylaidterf · 06/02/2018 19:25

Yuk. Thats gross. Is there any limit to these behaviour of these vile men . I shudder to think I may be sharing a space with one someday. If Im not already.

thebewilderness · 06/02/2018 19:36

The creepiest thing to me about the confessions of the wankers is that they are not confessions. They are bragging.

sexnotgender · 06/02/2018 21:45

Urgh,glad I never leave anything in the fridge at work, that is fucking awful!!

picklemepopcorn · 06/02/2018 21:57

The thing is, a small proportion (being kind) of men have really deviant behaviours that impact women. Voyeurism, AGP, flashing, and many others. Self ID, allowing men to share intimate spaces with women, gives them more opportunities. Retrogressive step.

I actually include porn in this category, though I think that it is so mainstream now few would agree.

Terfinater · 06/02/2018 22:12

The worse thing I ever read was the one where a bloke was going into the women s like dressed as a woman and wiping just a little bit of jizz on the toilet rolls.

hipsterfun · 06/02/2018 23:41

But if true, this just proves that men who hate women will cheerfully pose as transgender in order to frighten and upset us. Why assume they won't come and troll us in person once they can enter women's spaces with ease?

I don’t disagree, but I do think there are far fewer of them than it might currently seem; unless it’s proven otherwise, I’m going to assume many or most of them are little teenage fuckwits who wouldn’t dare try that shit in reality in a million years, nor would they have motivation to do so. Some of those DIE IN A FIRE, TERFS-type posts are so repetitive and badly done, I’m just not buying it. It would only take a handful of sorry little specimens sitting in their rooms, tending a load of fake profiles to create an apparent tide. And then the posts get curated by the concerned, with no verification, which adds a layer of believability.

For the avoidance of doubt, I’m not saying there isn’t a dangerous minority.

hipsterfun · 06/02/2018 23:47

And I’m most definitely not arguing for self-ID. In fact, I’m starting to agree with the recent poster who said rolling back the GRC seems a good idea in light of AGPs having got in on it.

thebewilderness · 07/02/2018 00:04

The problem with the few horrible perverts argument is, I think, that the rest of the men frequently applaud and seem to think it is a very good joke on the women. Many men have the same attitude toward self ID. It isn't a problem for them and it serves the uppity women right.

hipsterfun · 07/02/2018 00:56

Again, I don’t disagree, but that problem won’t be solved by allowing ourselves to be wound up by a bunch of Billy No-mates taking the piss on Twitter.

thebewilderness · 07/02/2018 00:58

Failure to object is assumed to be acquiescence.

hipsterfun · 07/02/2018 01:12

I can only meaningfully object to things I’m certain are real or are actually happening.

This doesn’t include possibly entirely made-up trolltastic social media content.

thebewilderness · 07/02/2018 01:28

I don’t disagree, but I do think there are far fewer of them than it might currently seem; unless it’s proven otherwise, I’m going to assume many or most of them are little teenage fuckwits who wouldn’t dare try that shit in reality in a million years, nor would they have motivation to do so. Some of those DIE IN A FIRE, TERFS-type posts are so repetitive and badly done, I’m just not buying it.

A lot of people assume that. Then they see the pics of the 40 year old men with the baseball bats and the fake blood shirts that say kill all terfs, and then another is exposed as a predator, and another, and they realize that rather than it being kids posing as adults it is for the most part adults posing as kids to groom children.

hipsterfun · 07/02/2018 01:41

Have baseball bat guy and fake blood T-shirt guy been identified? They are scary and identifiable. And with any luck, lock-up-able.

Look, all I’m saying is that there are loads of idiots who’d be all over this for fun, and it’s worth keeping that in mind.

bambambini · 07/02/2018 07:32

Agree with hipster

Hard to know if folk are trolling women and transfolk. The Mike guy on thst thread could have been anyone causing mischief.

Saying that, there’s plenty of other outrageous stuff.

The Labour fiasco of the moment with their cloying support of train wreck LM - the way they’ve turned on any woman who is critical of gender/identity politics -it’s left me incredulous, furious.

India Willoughby is just a knob full stop, disliked intensely by much of the trans community but India reflects a lot of the narcissism, the disregard for women, the bullying snd aggression, the self absorbed me, me, me attitude that serms so common in TW and activists.

For me - it was yhe IOC guidlines a few years ago. I followed the sports debate, tried to discuss it and was attacked again and again by TW for being a bigot.

TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 07/02/2018 07:54

I've been peak transed since forever, I never believed it back in the day [gosh, 30 years ago] when I worked with men who had gone through the process, they may have had female names, and pronouns but they always behaved like men. I worked in construction and understood that their journey was a hard one, but it was a different one. There is no pretending that any man can ever go through the same discrimination or journey as any woman.

They still had more pay and respect than any woman in the industry, and that is including women who were more qualified and experienced than they were. Women [including me] had to work so much harder and longer to 'prove' they could 'do' construction, whereas they were almost the hallowed ones, for daring to live outside the box. Utterly infuriating.

Lottapianos · 07/02/2018 08:58

'Anyway, there's a bit where they pop a transgender into the frame as if this was an achievement for women '

That seriously pissed me off too. It seems like every mention of feminism has to include a big woo hoo 'celebratory' reference to transwomen these days. Well balls to that (haha)

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