Tamsin sutherland

[iamawoman]

countrysquire.co.uk/2017/10/28/transinister/

Interesting and thoughtful article

@WhatsGoingOnEh , can you find out if T has been blocked and locked out as one poster says?

@picklemepopcorn T says she’s been banned. She tried to do a password reset but the confirmation email didn’t come through to her - is that a sign of anything?

It is perfectly possible to have a whole series of things that coincide to create the kind of conditions that lead to transgenderism without invoking some sort of intentional malignant conspiracy. I would say the thing that connects everything is simply patriarchy which as feminists we know is powerful, systemic by definition and works together to the subjugation of women as a sex class.

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This. The concept of patriarchy is plenty strong enough (and contains the recognition of complexity) to explain the morphing of MRAs intoTRAs.

T says she’s been banned. She tried to do a password reset but the confirmation email didn’t come through to her - is that a sign of anything?

Tell her to try again. I hope she isn't banned - while I wasn't on board with the entirety of her argument I could understand why she joined those dots. I thought she spoke sense in some areas and also has an important insider insight. No one is putting the boot in that I can see - although I don't think Frog deserved accusations - as I've seen her posting before, she's just one of us.

Hope to see T again even if under another name and more incognito.

I think patriarchy explains the link, yet I don't see it as an "end of!" moment.

Clearly there are misogynists who are funding and clearing the path for transgenderism since it is clearly not a grassroots movement. In fact transgenderists actually suppress grassroots feminists, LGB, academics, etc from playing a role.

That is not explained purely by 'Patriarchy end of!' otherwise feminism would never have had any wins.

That's a shame, what's! I didn't see the posts that were deleted, and I can understand that some people found the intensity and scope of her posts alarming, but I was interested in her perspective.

Tell her to email MNHQ - I've had account related issues for nearly two weeks now which sound similar and it doesn't seem to be anything sinister (although I thought at first it was!).

MNHQ came on and warned against breaking talk guidelines.

T then had a flurry of posts deleted for breaking talk guidelines.

And was banned for that (if they are banned).

It's all quite normal procedure, as far as MNHQ go.

Sometimes it's just a suspension, and after couple of days, they send an email to say they will reinstate you, as long as you remain within talk guidelines.

And T wasn't being vilified.

That's just laughable. Unless I have seriously missed a whole flurry of posts.

It was disagreement and questioning.

I liked your earlier post Datun. No vilifying there!

Ah yes Datun I realise now it was you I plagiarised with the 'firing off a lot of volleys' comment.

Hi all,

To confirm; we have banned InfamousT for repeatedly breaking Talk Guidelines - which is, as Datun says, not unusual - just our standard procedure.

Haha trans talk less, smile more. Don't let them know what you're against or what you're for..

I'm bored of this ongoing autopsy of the thread, but am still interested in the conversation itself.

Disclaimer -I am not interested in conspiracy theories or trying to invoke antisemitism, but I had a little look at Soros' Open Society Foundation and it says that:

Under his leadership, the Open Society Foundations have supported individuals and organizations across the globe fighting for freedom of expression, accountable government, and societies that promote justice and equality. The foundations have also provided school and university fees for thousands of promising students who would otherwise have been excluded from opportunities because of their identity or where they live.

This giving has often focused on those who face discrimination purely for who they are. He has supported groups representing Europe’s Roma people, and others pushed to the margins of mainstream society, such as drug users, sex workers, and LGBTI people.

'Freedom of expression', to patriarchal misogynists, often in practice means 'freedom of men to sexually exploit, prostitute and abuse women and girls and to create, distribute and consume pornographic imagery deriving from it'. He also uses the term 'sex workers' which of course includes pimps, pornographers and brothel owners.

However, the sex industries have so much money of their own, I can't imagine the OSF funding IUSW or funding Teela Sanders' research, but it is possible.

'Justice and equality' also, to liberals means treat everyone the same - eg- give men equal paternity leave even though he hasn't carried, laboured and birthed a child or breastfed them. But there's no reason to assume the Foundation would exclude nuances like this.

And the foundation funds individuals, but all the crazies on the front line of transactivism are constantly holding out the begging bowl, so they can't be getting it.

I wonder it George Soros would actually be interested in how transactivism is actually playing out to suppress freedom of expression and is further marginalising lesbians and other already marginalised women (homeless women, etc).

It would be interesting to know a bit more about the people who allocate funding, etc within the OSF - ie- are they all his mates from the financial sector? Or the LSE (which is now very gendery-gender, rather than 'Women's Studies).

Or it could be a genuine desire to support equality for marginalised groups? I would have happily donated to trans rights support before I realised the issues and conflicts and how they were being ignored as would many people I know.

I agree.

People often support things which intellectually make moral sense to them, but are ignorant of how it plays out on the ground. You just can't foresee everything.

So I believe it is all likely to be good intention (which William Blake said the Road to Hell is paved).

I'd be rather surprised if anyone that rich knew exactly where all the money they donated was going.

Of course, but he would have people he trusts to present the case for a particular fund to him and to for him to periodically review it.

I wonder where he met them or what sectors they are from.

One thing you could be sure of, someone as wealthy as George Soros probably can't move for all the sycophants crawling up his arse. It would be pretty much impossible to trust anyone.

I'd be really interested in learning about infamousT s treatment in the financial sector and why they thought they were thwarted for being a transsexual.

He may not know about the dark underbelly of transgenderism. Not many people do.

But, in the meantime, he is certainly funding it.

He’s funded a Streetwise and Safe organization in New York, with the purpose of supporting a “national project focused on increasing safety for LGBTQ youth during interactions with law enforcement and developing advocacy skills to engage debates around discriminatory policing practices,

www.google.co.uk/amp/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/11/george-soros-the-money-behind-the-transgender-move/

I wonder if there are TRAs among his advisors. Certainly middle aged, powerful, white men who're AGP aren't exactly in short supply.

Thanks for the link Datun so the OSF gave The Gay Straight Alliance Network $100,000 in 2013.

and the article says:

The bathroom debate started in California, where the Gay Straight Alliance Network, an organization based in Oakland, has been lobbying hard for transgender rights. The group is a “next-generation LGBTQ racial and gender justice organization that empowers … allied youth leaders to advocate, organize, and mobilize an intersectional movement,” according to its website.

They’ve created Gay Straight Alliance (GSA) clubs in more than 61 percent of California school’s and have advocated for and achieved 11 pro-LGBT laws in the state, including a 2013 bill that allowed students to join sports teams and use the bathroom of their gender preference.

The GSA helped organize groups in North Carolina.

They helped craft LGBT curriculum in accordance with the University of North Carolina’s LEARN NC program to teach and talk about the issue. They helped create an action guide that gave LGBT activists a blueprint for lobbying, including what hashtags to use on social media, and how to file complaints with the U.S. Office for Civil Rights.

but $100,000 is peanuts really. To achieve all that they'd need more surely?

When I get a bit more time I want to follow a few of the linked organisations.

With regard to his advisors - well, Silicone Valley is in California isn't it? And I remember being surprised to read this blog by a woman who worked on phone sex lines in that area. - I can't find the link..

Yeah, Silicon Valley is absolutely crawling with TRAs.