Tamsin sutherland

[iamawoman]

countrysquire.co.uk/2017/10/28/transinister/

Interesting and thoughtful article

'not enjoying the combative "You're a nutter!", "Well you're a handmaid" kind of exchange'

Sorry but you have to understand where ideas are coming from and what their logic is - otherwise you end up supporting things that want to exterminate you too. Not good enough to skim read when it is so important.

you have to understand where ideas are coming from and what their logic is

That is exactly what I am interested in doing.

I don't think mudslinging helpful in achieving that, do you?

A Woman's Place UK has organised a London meeting. The more people who go, the more it will be covered in the press.

27th of February, 7pm. £5.98.

Venue to be announced.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3160410-Womans-Place-UK-meeting-in-London-27-Feb

Trafig I'm not sure what you are asking if I'm honest. I agree with you, I think bad things happen because there is hatred of difference. Which is why I find talking in terms such as 'your daughters will all be wearing burkas in 20 years' so offensive, because it is this same language that people going round ripping veils off women use. I'm not suggesting the op is wanting to do that, but you can't either be blind to the effects of that kind of language. Ditto stuff about the decline of western civilization and cultural marxism. Whose cause does it help if you end up sounding like the alt-righters who also spout this kind of stuff? Like Wizard, I would suggest that it is naive to ignore the kind of intellectual pedigree this kind of idea has, because it really isn't pretty. You ask what I stand for? Like us all, I think, tolerance, peace and freedom. I will fight against ideas that I think work against that, and suggestions that civilisation is under threat from dark powers linked to particular religions and immigrants coming from particular places, for me, comes very firmly under that heading.

Hi all - we've had lots of reports about this thread and we're just taking a look now. Can we remind everyone to stick well within our TGs to avoid deletion of individual posts or of the entire thread. Apart from anything else, when we delete a post for a line which breaks them, the rest of the post goes pouf too, which is frustrating for all.

Please be particularly wary of making blanket generalisations about an entire section of the population. Hyperbole frequently puts posters on the wrong side of the TGs.

FINAL WORD

Okay - rip me to shreds, feel free. Slur me, tar me and call into question my state of mind. Feel free.

I have done my research, looked at the figures and refuse to live my life online in a bubble of Confirmation Bias.

I state again that ALL aspects of the modern world that have the specious suffix of 'phobia' is connected. It is a political tactic, and it is politics - and in particular bad politicking that I am concerned with.

With regard to the Neomarxist plan to undermine classical Judeo/Christian 'Western Civilisation', I reiterate: If genetic women as a societal class are wiped out at the statistical level, then the very notions of Law and Order become meaningless - this should be obvious to anyone that can add up. The transgender agenda opens the door to all the very worst kind of men from the overtly fetishistic to the child killers self identifying as women, and being considered 'real' women - so be prepared for crime figures become not just skewed, but utterly nonsensical.

With regard to Islam - I reiterate: it is Mulsims, (especially women) that suffer most under this authoritarian ideology - and like it or not, we now actually have a de facto dual state running in which Islamic communities are exempt from following our laws - and as with the Halal butchery question, we are all being forced to eat this meat our children included - and we have absolutely no say in it. No one voted for it. It simply happened. It is women that suffer. I suggest you all read The Koran and The Hadiths. Draw your own conclusions. Understand the difference between Wahhabi, Salafi and Suffi. Understand the concepts of Taqiyyah, Jizyah and Kuffar.

With regard to LGBT, I reiterate: by using the transgender agenda, they have fully adopted postmodernism, and therefore Neomarxism, and are targeting children through the education system for a deep seated indoctrination and brainwashing. Their really rather fascistic targeting of Christians leaves me cold. It is premeditated and carried out with malice aforethought. It is fascistic - according to dictionary definitions.

I reiterate: all of these aspects of modern Britain have a 'phobia' attached to those that dare show the temerity to question what is going on. This has created raft of thought crimes and if you haven't read 1984, now is the time to do so.

With regard to my credentials, I reiterate: I have been online since 1996 and speak directly with people across the world - as a professional in the music industry, I produced bands from across the world - from Texas to South Africa and right across the country. As a digital media professional, I worked with many Blue Chip organisations - specifically in the financial sector.

I have done two years of research, read all the relevant books, studied the history - and forgive me if I have made some extremely worrisome connections and drawn some quite horrific conclusions.

I like facts and figures, always double check my sources and have spoken to some truly terrifying characters from right across the political spectrum.

I do not subscribe to any form of identitarian politics, I am a Classical English Liberal. I am an individual.

I have taken as my starting point where I found myself 5 years ago - and along with my 'lived experience' over that time, I have extrapolated the societal trends and arrived at an image of a possible future that chills me to the bone.

I follow - in great depth - politics from across the English speaking world and see the same patterns being repeated from the USA and Canada to Europe and Australasia.

I have been following and commenting on Global Geopolitics for a decade, but like every aspect of my life now - seen my once respected career and reputation trashed, my character smeared wit every slur under the sun, and along with being Doxxed, abused, sexually assaulted, spat on and threatened, and seen my health suffer as a consequence that has left me little more than house-bound for a year now.

I have touched raw nerves, induced Cognitive Dissonance, and been vilified as a result - so, please forgive me if I am somewhat tetchy.

I see all of these drives being connected - some used to call it the New World Order and it is now referred to in many circles as the Deep State - I call it the Rainbow Reich.

Dissent is not allowed, compelled speech is the order of the day - see Canadian Bill C16 - and a route direct to prison for thought crime has become established in Law - along with what are ostensibly Blasphemy Laws - but only for Political Islam - there is no 'hate speech' for Jews, Christians, Hindus or anyone else for the matter of that.

With regard to what is actually happening in Sweden now - I might suggest actually talking to some Swedish people - you may just find it enlightening. With regard to Mainstream Media, I contest that you are being lied to. A reliance on 'services' such as BBC fact-checker and Snopes is myopic at best. We have never known so much propaganda - and on THAT score I suggest you read "propaganda' by Ed Bernays - it is the blueprint for manufacturing thought.

So, go on - decry my all you want. Write me off. Heap the slurs on me - it is nothing I haven't already been through.

I'm inquisitive, ask awkward questions and seek answers.

I cannot stand by and act apologist for paedophilla, nor the organised subjugation of women and girls.

I do not believe in coincidence, and I follow the money.

I reiterate: everything that has 'phobia' attached is connected. It is designed to erode your rights to Freedom of Speech - and thought, and expression.

History has aught me at least, the lesson that hose of an authoritarian bent shall flock to any ideology that allows them to act like tyrants.

Globalist Neoliberalism, Postmodern Neomarxism and Political Islam are all intrinsically Totalitarian, and the tech giants of Silicon Valley seem dead set on enforcing this mind-set.

Money. Power. Totality.

So, wind back 10 years - think about where we were - now wind forward 10, 20 and 50 years.

Read the books. Study the statistics and draw your own conclusions.

...and smear and slur me all you like - call me names. No, really - do.

My role is to say the unsayable whilst it is still possible to do so. To provide food for deep thought.

Please, just bear in mind - I could very well get killed for saying any of this, and am likely to end up in prison if the Culture War is lost.

I have risked everything to actually 'speak truth to power', and am already suffering the consequences.

Finally - I reiterate - I desperately want to be wrong. It terrifies me that I might, just, be right.

So, go on: tear me to shreds if that makes you feel better. I am past caring... for myself. It's the very future I am trying to protect from dark forces - and if I AM utterly insane, I shall fade into obscurity.

Frighteningly, exactly the same shall also happen to me if I am right.

...and i hope to God that I am wrong.

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Which is why I find talking in terms such as 'your daughters will all be wearing burkas in 20 years' so offensive, because it is this same language that people going round ripping veils off women use.

But - but...

Women haven't always been forced to wear veils in Iran or Afghanistan and there were cultural/political contexts within which things massively took a downturn for Iranian and Afghan women. I don't receive what is being said as right-wing propaganda. Just food for thought as to whether a comparable cultural/political context is being fostered here.

I am very conscious of the fact that people consciously being PC about both Islam and Transgenderism is both harming women's rights and justifying poor attitudes towards and treatment of women.

We've got in a huge mess because of this and I would like to discuss the power structures, systems and practices and whether and how we need to forearm against a Handmaid's Tail dystopian future.

Discussion (between mainly female mumsnetters) doesn't lead to pulling scarves of women.

Male dominance and control does.

Tale

I mean - sorry

x posted with T again - I'll read now

Guardian - I think mnhq have it right here, it's when people start using alarmist hyperbole and generalisation that things become problematic. A discussion about how certain currents in modern society are leading to a shutting down of debate, and the authoritarian undertones of a lot of left-wing discourse right now - that's one thing. But as soon as you start talking about some kind of Islamist takeover of the west within 20 years, that for me is crossing a line. It's a demagogic tactic familiar to the alt-righters, trump, farage etc, and it involves stoking fear of the other. As an analogy, it's fine to have a debate, for instance, about the possible impact on immigration of a Turkish accession to the EU. But post a picture of yourself superimposed on a photo of a mass of dark-skinned immigrants with a caption saying 'ready for the invasion?' or similar (or whatever that awful farage poster said), and that is very definitely Not Ok. There is rational debate, and then there is ridiculous fear-mongering. I know which side of the line i think this particular poster is sitting on in this respect, and from the apparent number of reports of this thread, I'm (luckily) not the only one.

I agree with you frogsoup, but there's a lot of alarmist fear-mongering and othering about at the moment.

Alarmist I would give you, but fear-mongering I find a bit mischaracterising, as though there is a hidden agenda to cause panic (like the Brexit posters), where I see it as genuine 'fear-expressing'.

As for 'othering' - I am not sure where that is, maybe I missed it.

Who gets to decide, though? I bet Farage, and certainly many of his followers, would tell you that they genuinely fear hordes of immigrants turning up on our doorstep, or the setting up of an Islamic caliphate in Barnsley. The rest of us think this is ridiculous, and also stokes racism. Just because in this case here the intention may be honourable doesn't excuse the need to tread carefully and NOT be alarmist and provocative when it comes to discussing race and religion. If you say things like 'if you don't act, your daughters will be wearing burkas in 20 years', does it matter if you are a racist alt-righter or not? The practical consequence is the same: it's a dog-whistle, whether you intend it to be or not.

Anyway - I see transgenderism as being about individualism.

All that regurgitated 'personal choice' narrative, is a solidarity-shredding divide and conquer tactic.

I don't believe it belongs in the left.

However, the left is piss easy to guilt-trip and confuse, and the intersectional analysis of structural oppression has been an open door with the engine running for transgenderists to hijack and start throwing their weight around- before you know it, people have to list all their oppressions before being allowed to speak.

All the Lily Madigan's etc couldn't give a shite about the working class, but the left is an easy win.

Fearmongering.

www.breitbart.com/london/2018/02/06/revealed-britains-foreign-office-promotes-world-hijab-day-attempts-to-avoid-public-disclosure-of-staff-event/

I totally agree Guardian. I don't think we need look too deep actually for the causes of what's happening with transgenderism, and I see them far more in neoliberal ideologies of remaking the self than in Marxism. Foucault certainly isn't responsible, although he assuredly could shed some light on the discourses involved and how they decentre power.

Has anyone ready Shiela Jeffreys Man's Dominion: The Rise of Religion and the Eclipse of Women's Rights?

I haven't got around to reading it and I wonder if it would be relevant to what we're talking about here.

Yup, you are quite correct, it is fearmongering.

More fearmongering.

www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/15922948.Disgraced_PC_Ihsan_Ali_who__targeted_vulnerable_women__jailed_for_two_years/?ref=twtrec

Yet more fearmongering...

www.gov.uk/government/publications/applying-sharia-law-in-england-and-wales-independent-review

...even more fearmongering

www.rt.com/news/393238-germany-asylum-seekers-rape/

Sweet Jesus.

Is there seriously anyone left in any doubt with what we are dealing with here?!

If there is one think I simply cannot stand - it's hypocrisy.

Go on - call me names. That'll really help, won't it?

If you think all of this is unconnected to trans rights, then you are best naive - at worst, you are one of these so-called 'progressive feminists' that are throwing ALL these women under a bus.

Well done.