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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bluestocking lock in!

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QuentinSummers · 29/01/2018 22:00

Posted a whole thing on the last thread and it was locked!

Last thread here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3062013-The-Bluestocking-is-open-for-business
Here's my post replying to Moth
Thats an interesting article moth. Best not on the board or MRAs would be all over it!
I was wondering today, hopefully, if the news about darts getting rid of the girls means the overton window is shifting and maybe p0rn will become less acceptable?
If not all this hooha about F1 girls and the presidents club is just tinkering on the edges.

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ReluctantCamper · 06/05/2018 23:27

I was very sad that the MRA got zapped so quickly. I was rather hoping to be inexcusably rude to someone that deserves it. I find I have rather a lot of steam to let off at the moment....

Waddlelikeapenguin · 07/05/2018 01:19

WomaninGreen

Ice cream gratefully accepted
Why is it grey though?

Ermmm...ah well....ooh no it's not grey it's a black & white picture of strawberry icecream Grin do you even like strawberry it could be mint or something

Hope it's been cool enough to sleep well.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/05/2018 07:46

It's superior mint choc chip - no artificial green colouring, and very dark chocolate.

WomaninGreen · 07/05/2018 09:39

Haven't had mint choc chip for ages, yum.

Took a sleeping pill. Yum Grin

WomaninGreen · 07/05/2018 18:15

My mummy is still in the hospital and she's so frail and sad.

Sorry, I'll pull myself together when I go back in there.

ColinTheDachshund · 07/05/2018 19:05

ThanksThanksfor you and your mum. Its horrible, and hard to keep a brave face.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/05/2018 19:06

Sorry, that was me in my canine ID

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 07/05/2018 19:32

woman Thanks

WomaninGreen · 07/05/2018 21:49

Thanks everyone, much appreciated

Waddlelikeapenguin · 07/05/2018 23:03

Oh woman SadFlowersFlowersFlowers

Lots of Cake, Gin & Glitterball

WomaninGreen · 08/05/2018 11:41

And dad thinks she only hangs on in life because of me and then I feel bad Sad

Then I read shit like this and get angry. Just a joke + mansplanation

www.chronicle.com/article/he-makes-a-joke-she-isn-t/243350#.Wu_cS6KbQ_w.twitter

Waddlelikeapenguin · 08/05/2018 15:58

Gosh Woman huge hugs Sad

Waddlelikeapenguin · 08/05/2018 16:11

I missed part of my post

Woman
My mum did a fair bit of end of life nursing & she always says there are people who need permission to leave (to be told the people they love are safe & well and will be looked after when they are gone) - I wonder if this is what your Dad means? I hope he doesnt mean it badly.

I desperately hope I havent spoken out of turn & if I have please accept my unreserved apologies Flowers

WomaninGreen · 08/05/2018 16:39

Waddle you haven't spoken put of turn at all
In fact I was worried I had but it's not a topic I can raise with friends and family
Yes, I think she will need "permission".

But, she is also on a lot of meds after a procedure and neither of us react well to meds. We get really weird mental reactions as well as physical.

She's regretting the procedure, she wasn't strong enough to have it but these days I think you need to be about 95 before the doctors factor that in. She's nearly 80.

Do feel free to say other stuff, pub goers, I'm grateful for the chance to talk here but have no desire to stifle general chat. Smile

ErrolTheDragon · 08/05/2018 17:18

Hey, what are pubs for - this one does tea and sympathy as well as drowning your sorrows. Brew

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 08/05/2018 17:23

Oh man...i just tried to pm this but it didnt work

I hope the following message isnt speaking out of turn woman

woman

I have only ever said to one person in RL life what I'm about to type

My mum died of cancer in 2000, it was sunday late afternoon and i was alone with her

My brother and husband were due to go back to work on the monday and as i had a small one visiting would have been a bit more difficult

So i said when i thought she was sleeping something along the lines of ' if you need to go it had best be today' and then she died

Ive felt guilty for years but the one person i told in RL said that I shouldn't be upset as i had given her 'permission' to leave us and given her peace

Those wise words have done no good for my guilt whatsoever...but i think she was right

I am sorry this is happening to you, it's incredibly difficult Thanks

WomaninGreen · 08/05/2018 17:31

Aw Rufus, I totally think you did the right thing.

Offers Gin and unmumsnetty hugs xx

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 08/05/2018 17:38

Thanks

It was fucking typical of her to be honest

Die when i was the only one there...my brother had gone off to buy her a teddy and my dad had left her bedside for the first time in days to have lunch with his sister (virtually dragged him out)

Such a contrary woman Grin

In my defence she never listened to me usually ...wasnt really expecting her to this time

WomaninGreen · 08/05/2018 17:52

Everyone's contribution has been really helpful.....the permission thing has been on my radar for over a year so I need to ponder.
I'll sign off for tonight but thanks again for listening.

QuentinSummers · 08/05/2018 19:13

woman Flowers
rufus Flowers

I have no experience but I wonder if in this situation you are going to feel guilty whatever happens.

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Rufustheyawningreindeer · 08/05/2018 19:44

quentin

Yes

All the things you never did

FermatsTheorem · 08/05/2018 22:45

Hugs Woman and to Rufus too.

My mum was ill and increasingly frail for years. I think she got through my pregnancy (I had my baby late in life; I was her youngest) and the early months of DS's life on sheer bloody mindedness. I had low level PND and really struggled with BF; mum saw me through that. Then it was almost as if she could see I'd finally turned a corner and was coping, and thought "it's okay, I can let go now."

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 08/05/2018 22:48

fermats Thanks

Waddlelikeapenguin · 08/05/2018 22:49

woman Flowers
I'm so relieved it wasnt out of turn, my Dad died very suddenly when I was a child & I can still remember the people who avoided saying anything so I promised myself to always say something in horrible situations because I found it better acknowledged clumsily than not at all. But obviously others may not feel the same!
I hope you find a good sleep & a peaceful heart tonight Flowers

rufus Flowers guilt is so awful I hope you can forgive yourself (not that i think you did anything wrong quite the contrary I think it was a great kindness) Flowers

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I tied myself in knots today when my DD said "well what is feminism?" So many facets that I dont want to share with a 9 yr old & dont want to scare her off with my ranting. She was very much "but obviously women can do anything a man can why would we need to tell people that" Grin tbh I think that's where I was until at least my late teens if not twenties...

Waddlelikeapenguin · 08/05/2018 22:52

FermatsTheorem Flowers how wonderful she was able to see you & her grandson safe & well