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Bluestocking lock in!

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QuentinSummers · 29/01/2018 22:00

Posted a whole thing on the last thread and it was locked!

Last thread here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3062013-The-Bluestocking-is-open-for-business
Here's my post replying to Moth
Thats an interesting article moth. Best not on the board or MRAs would be all over it!
I was wondering today, hopefully, if the news about darts getting rid of the girls means the overton window is shifting and maybe p0rn will become less acceptable?
If not all this hooha about F1 girls and the presidents club is just tinkering on the edges.

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WomaninGreen · 30/04/2018 16:16

thanks Waddle

Oh I see.

no, what I mean is, we have to teach them full stop, so become parents and teachers. Does that make sense?

so if they are pissed off with a teacher they can come and tell us.

if they are finding it hard to spend a lot of the day with us....but then again, I honestly feel that the total teaching hours per day, even for passing exams etc, must be much lower than school attendance. Plus remove time for walking to school or bus ride as it will be later on...and the pointless play time, time wasted in registration, swapping classrooms, blah blah.....or wear your Easter bonnet etc.

never heard of unschooling - will look it up.

ErrolTheDragon · 30/04/2018 16:24

Plus remove time for walking to school or bus ride as it will be later on...and the pointless play time

Both of those things (and a lot of the non-teaching time in school hours) will be socialising with their peers. Which is (IME) extremely valuable.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 30/04/2018 16:24

no, what I mean is, we have to teach them full stop, so become parents and teachers. Does that make sense?

It depends what kind of HE suits your family. If you use a school at home model then yes you are their teacher but not the way we (& lots of other families) HE because i dont tell them they have to for example do maths now, i do tell them they have to brush their teeth! Fwiw my kids love maths...

The HE board on here is quiet but there are probably old threads you would find useful to get a picture of how different people HE.

WomaninGreen · 30/04/2018 17:18

Errol, noted, my friends agree with you - not specifically about the journey but about school as socialisation.

Waddle, hmm, we'd be going for a "most efficient way to pass exams and learn stuff we find useful and stimulating" model if that makes sense!

picklemepopcorn · 30/04/2018 17:32

I actually thought 'Mum to be 25's' post on crisp butty's thread was sarcastic. I'm losing my wits.

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 30/04/2018 18:51

woman

Friends of mine homeschooled

Their children went to maths and science lessons (I remember those particularly) with other home educated children and they met up on a very regular basis to do activities

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 30/04/2018 18:54

What now pickle

Is that crisps new thread

I know people can see the pub thread but it feels like they cant see it...i know thats dumb Grin

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 30/04/2018 18:54

Oh no wait

I remember it now

picklemepopcorn · 30/04/2018 21:30

I hoped my post was fairly bland looking... it was crisps thread about the article. I completely misread one poster. Such a cliche, hun, I hope you are ok because You are so lovely and beautiful and we all love you hun.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 30/04/2018 22:36

Woman
we'd be going for a "most efficient way to pass exams and learn stuff we find useful and stimulating" model if that makes sense!

It does! Lots depends on if your children are at exam point now or not (some HE kids do gcses a few at a time but early) but generally flr time efficiency i would say tutor, online learning, study groups, college. I would get in touch with your local he groups (lots on facebook but there are others) explain you are considering he & go along to a few meets & talk Smile

It will give you a better idea of what social stuff there is too there will be loads

Waddlelikeapenguin · 30/04/2018 22:38

Pickle i read that first 25 post as sarcasm too Gin

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 30/04/2018 22:38

Yeah

Its the 'hun' and love bit i remember...

picklemepopcorn · 01/05/2018 07:22

Cheers waddle.
I think it suggests that mum 25 is fairly new to MN.

Glad it wasn't just me!

WomaninGreen · 01/05/2018 20:15

Today's random points

I'm starting to dislike Twitter, used to be a fan. Things have become so self referential it's hard to know what people are saying. Frankly it's making me understand Jordan Peterson's points about identity politics giving us less and less space to be more than one thing.

Other random point, can I teach myself to draw? I have a DC book and thought, oh, hmm, maybe it's something I can learn as an adult even if I was rubbish as a kid? I don't recall being properly taught tbh.

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 01/05/2018 20:18

can I teach myself to draw?

Yep, loads of books out there giving basic instructions

And on the internet now i think of it...

WomaninGreen · 01/05/2018 20:21

Vsorry i should have been more clear

Is there any chance I could get to a decent standard eg be able to draw a vase of flowers or something? I couldn't even draw an apple when I was a teen!

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 01/05/2018 20:25

Sorry I should be clearer Grin

Yes there is

Most people can draw with a bit of technical help and loads and loads of practice

Its the practice...and most people give up

You may never have the talent but you can certainly gain the ability

I used to be able to draw at half decent picture but i didnt put the practice in

I was talking to a friend about it the other day, her son can do art at GCSE but will never set the world alight...he is happy with that

WomaninGreen · 01/05/2018 20:34

Ooh id be happy if I could draw to GCSE standard

I think it would be a nice hobby and a good discipline for me.

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 01/05/2018 20:39

I would also look at some adult education classes as well

Maybe have a look at some of the basic books like 'learn to draw..', (you can get flower specific ones) and have a little fiddle first just so you get the idea

There are probably some online tutorials but i would stick with step by step line drawings that you can copy to start

You start simple and then work up the higher levels til you get to youre 'happy place'

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 01/05/2018 20:39

Your ...not youre

Stupid fingers

WomaninGreen · 01/05/2018 20:48

I won't go to classes but when I've got through the DC animals book Grin I'll get a book for flowers, or just base drawing for adults

Today we've done elephants! I think I had more fun than they did Grin

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 01/05/2018 20:50

I was well chuffed when dd showed a tiny degree of ability when she was about 8

Bought books for her and ds2

I used them more Grin

But i stopped again...maybe I'll start up one day

MissMoneyPlant · 03/05/2018 13:15

Is the blustocking safe, when you're having memories of terrible things that have happened that mean you don't belong with other feminists? Can I hide in the corner with a glass of red and know I'm in company where what men have done to me isn't belittled or blamed on me because I have the misfortune to have been labelled by psychiatry, when I was just suffering and in pain?
Does anybody understand?
I feel so alone, I'm so sorry.

Theinconstantgardener · 03/05/2018 13:22

MissMoneyPlant
Sorry you are feeling bad. No need to apologise. Yes I would say the bluestocking is safe. From personal experience of telling my story - was supported by other posters here. Flowers
Can you talk to a trusted person irl?

MissMoneyPlant · 03/05/2018 13:55

Can't really talk to anyone anywhere about it. Being a feminist with mental health issues (not even sure about that name, it's not all my "mental health" it's life/society issues too!) means I feel different or even not welcome in both mental health and feminist spaces.

It just seems as if a woman struggling with absuive man = feminist support, speaking out on her behalf, running refuges, etc, looking at social context. But if that woman has developed a trauma reaction to that, and is thrust into the mental health system, then she's othered, wash our hands of her, not relevant, and even supporting the awful psych system in pathologising her life experiences.

I keep wanting to start a thread, but not feeling strong enough.

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