Labour against transphobia group - thread 2

[QuentinSummers]

Follow on from
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3144285-Labour-Against-Transphobia-Facebook-group?msgid=75082467#75082467

Thanks, Capn! - I liked this comment...

"What this means is - I don’t have an opinion on this issue so I will leave a foot in both camps in order to appear as reasonable as possible, therefore maintaining the illusion that I am a reasonable. compassionate, intelligent politician. Meanwhile, orders have been issued and names are being taken ..."

World at One are doing piece Radio4 1pm

Tune into world at one (starting now radio 4) for discussion on trans rights and Labour.

@Feared, I hope it's more than just Labour. Need to keep reminding them it's all parties, and led by Tories.

Thanks for posting, I'm listening to world at 1 one too now.

"It is my contention that young people today are being brainwashed and turned into Orwellian servants of the state for a much larger agenda. It has been suggested by others that the assault on sexual distinctions and on the perception of basic biological reality is part of a game to give absolute power to the state in the interpretation of reality itself. If the state can force people to admit that men are women, they can force them to believe anything. War is peace. Slavery is freedom. Men are women. "

From this article by a TIM:
off-guardian.org/2018/01/26/synanon-the-brainwashing-game-and-modern-transgender-activism-the-orwellian-implications-of-transgender-politics/#comment

This might already have been posted, but just thought it was interesting. From the Mail. I had suspected that JC was very pleased with himself about how many young people turned out to vote for him in the last election.

And the image didn't post...

Grr, it's appeared in the first message now. Bloody mumsnet.

Its going to be debated on world at 1 today...

AWS that is.

Just heard the preview ' it's an all women list not all female' apparently.

Cross post with many it seems!

The dictionary is transphobic.

I think it's telling and disturbing how some are trying to take the female out of woman so as to alter the definition, it's not done out of inclusion either.

Labour doesn't allow hate speech. What about your nasty list?

TWs are already allowed on shortlists. Discussion should have focused more on the self-ID and we need to keep saying that. NB Lily does not have a GRC so is not 'qualified' to be on AWS.. Not explicit rule re Women's Officer positions which are voluntary. It's clearer with AWS which is a fast-track to a £70k job and so has to be legal.
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Collidascope

I saw this on twitter earlier. If taken on face value it suggests that the Corbyn youth revolution might not be quite so revolutionary. I think they will realise at some point what a mistake it was to lose so many older left wing women.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42747342

That's true OvaHere but I think that Labour have bought into the "reality" that the youth vote delivered the result and into the "reality" that self-ID will keep the youth vote on board. Labour are snaring themselves in a trap of truthiness.

Tweet bbc? Re world at 1? I'm not on twitter.

Yes Ova, he would need older women's vote just as much. Older women much more likely to question the motives and workability of a policy that effectively opens the door to women's and girls private and protected spaces to anyone with a penis. Funny that.

Jeremy sets Party policy now, apparently.

Thanks, Ova. That's interesting -and unfortunate for Jeremy Corbyn.

Parnish LM has publicly said that they hold a GRC. 🤔