Wrong side of history

[LyraPotter]

Here is something I know to be true: those campaigning against trans rights will fail. Your money will be raised and spent and wasted. Your legal challenges will not succeed. Your relentless attempts to do injustice will fail. You are on the wrong side of history. Your children will grow up knowing better than you. You cannot stop progress. Your efforts are in vain.

And every time I'm proven right - every time a court judgment goes against you and every time a law protecting trans men and women is passed and every time equality is further enshrined in the laws of this country I am going to return to this thread for the pure and petty purpose of telling you I TOLD YOU SO.

Just donated, thanks for the reminder.

Yep. You see stuff like that and you see why kind, well-meaning people leap to their defence.

I too would go to the barricades for their right to express themselves that way, but their oppression is not the same as women’s oppression.

*Can I just point out that Mark Collett is a former Chairman of the Young BNP? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Collett

I don't think he's going to help the cause, to be honest.*

He's a dreadful person. But the responses - and number of likes/retweets - to what he said should give the TRAs pause for thought. They are tilting at the wrong windmills and, if they continue to alienate women, their natural allies, will find themselves very much alone and isolated when the eventual backlash comes.

I'm just trying to say that a busy, meaningful and fulfilling life can be found in other ways than through sexual relationships

Oh yes. But children deserve to have the choice, or at least the chance. To neuter your child even before they know what they are missing just disgusts me.
But hey! At least he's not gay!

I'm just trying to say that a busy, meaningful and fulfilling life can be found in other ways than through sexual relationships

Oh yes. But children deserve to have the choice, or at least the chance. To neuter your child even before they know what they are missing just disgusts me.
But hey! At least he's not gay!

A neo nazi tweeter explains all the verbally abusive men on the thread.

What's interesting is that the OP's other threads are very, very unlike this. If someone changes their name, can someone else then have that name?

I dont think so mybrilliantdisguise

Can anyone post the link for the fundraising page?
Don’t worry Lyra, I’ve got loads of money 👍🏻

Hi Lyra - just popping back to point out we won the legal challenge without spending a penny of our lovely money. Lots in the pot for future fights!

Hermione Bet that was satisfying to type?

I don't think it's been confirmed yet hermione
mobile.twitter.com/maddiemantis/status/954037469158273025

Oh FFS! I saw a statement from Labour NEC this afternoon?

I think that is the post that's been deleted off Facebook.
The central party must be bricking it. Legal challenge on one side, pissed off vocal brocialists on the other

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1991215904424485&id=1734093216803423

Looks like the tweet is gone. Weird

What was the tweet, just see page not found. I saw the statement by the Labour party, women and transwomen with grc only, as we wanted. Not the version where women are excluded if they choose not to identify with their own sex.

Screenshot of the Facebook post I have linked. The post saying trans women must have a GRC to stand on all women shortlists is pulled and replaced with a "transphobia....trans women are women" post

Here's the update from the fundraising page -

Cheers Quentin. I'm a Labour party member but the way they are riding rough shod over women's rights has appalled me. No discussion, no debate, and a decision that may not be lawful. This doesn't give me much faith in them.

The labour party totally own this. Their work here - lurching from stupid incoherent statement to stupid incoherent offensive and scientifically indefensible statement has been truly masterful.

What's that sound? Is it Aneurin Bevan spinning beneath us?

They are tilting at the wrong windmills and, if they continue to alienate women, their natural allies, will find themselves very much alone and isolated when the eventual backlash comes.

That’s exactly the point I made upthread. We aren’t the ones who are going to be kicking the shit out of a trans woman outside a pub on a Saturday night, or raping them, or molesting them. We have been at the hands of these men for years. We know them and what they can and will do. Some trans women seem to think being female is just about putting on sling backs and a halter top.

The labour party totally own this. Their work here - lurching from stupid incoherent statement to stupid incoherent offensive and scientifically indefensible statement has been truly masterful.

Yep. And the current furore kicked off by Dawn Butler, who intimated that self-ID was the way to go with AWS. Dawn is the Shadow Minister for Equalities and so on top of her fucking brief that she didn't know the legal basis for AWS. THE BLOODY SHADOW MINISTER HAS NO UNDERSTANDING OF HER OWN BRIEF.

Yy Lang.

I could fucking cry tbh. The Labour Party is my fucking home. And they are just trashing it. Where are the fucking big thinkers?

They had fucking giants. They were the architects of the Welfare State. And what do we have now? Fucking muppets and fucking children.

There aren't enough swear words to adequately express how I'm currently feeling.

I just had the one but I sprinkled it liberally...