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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

ITV Transformation Street

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RedToothBrush · 11/01/2018 17:29

On tv tonight.

But here's an article to give you a taste of what its going to be like:www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/transformation-street-itv-transgender-documentary-a3737876.html

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Datun · 21/01/2018 15:48

And that diagnosed gender dysphoria is a prerequisite for a legal change of 'gender'.

That might, just might, highlight the difference between transsexuals and cross dressers. Get it out into the open.

48harv · 21/01/2018 15:52

In fact send me the data and I will write to Theresa May and demand it be scrapped, I have written many letters to various governments , for example I wrote about the slow reopening of Mosul University as my friend was not allowed to go back to university after daesh fled
I have also written to Egypt’s president begging for Laura Plummers release to name but two, so I will gladly fight this stupid law in fact I think the 2 years should be extended not shirtened

Deadlylampshade · 21/01/2018 15:57

This law is what we’re fighting harv, this is why we’re talking.

If this proposed change hadn’t happened we would have all just got on with what we were doing before, the old honour system that has always been in place.

We don’t hate trans people, we can see the harm this could do.

We are also concerned about the MASSIVE spike in children wanting to transition and the lack of research around it.

We don’t want trans people to suffer we want them to have access to accurate medical advice and not have professionals too afraid to speak out.

This will really harm trans people, when trans stops being considered a disorder then the nhs will no longer have to fund it.
When they expand the law against conversion therapy to include trans people a professional could be struck off for suggesting therapy in children or adults who are experiencing gender dysphoria.
It’s going to really hurt trans people and we don’t think it’s ok.

We get tarred with the brush of transphobia but we have been fighting this the whole time even though we’re hated for it, in your corner not against you.

Deadlylampshade · 21/01/2018 15:59

Fabulous harv !!!

FlowersWineCakeGrin

Deadlylampshade · 21/01/2018 16:00

Though you might want to start with your local mp

48harv · 21/01/2018 16:12

My local MP is a lazy b**r and I wouldn’t waste my time no , you tell me where I can get all the info on this stupidity and I will make some noise believe me, it is silly, I will in a few months have to State I am still able to drive without any proof I think this law is stupid and I should have to prove it, the same is with the law you are so rightly angry with it is ludicrous to allow a man int a women’s space by him wearing a dress that’s jnsane

48harv · 21/01/2018 16:14

That insane not jnsane see how angry I am lost my typing skills

48harv · 21/01/2018 16:22

Madness pandering to a minority in the hope of getting votes sick

48harv · 21/01/2018 16:26

I will tell you the truth I was happy there was this 2 year cooling off period I welcomed the psychological briefings I attended every week, with the psychiatrist being very aggressive in his examinations of me, he was quite open with me an told me if there was even the smallest chance I was wrong he wouldn’t put me forward for the surgery , it is very necessary for this intense scrutiny,

Deadlylampshade · 21/01/2018 16:27

What information do you want harv?

48harv · 21/01/2018 16:27

I have read the article and totally disagree with it it’s pandering.

48harv · 21/01/2018 16:29

I have seen it I will be doing my best to help you

Deadlylampshade · 21/01/2018 16:31

I actually can understand why some trans people might have an issue with it, I remember a family friend going through it when I was about 11 and asking her why she never wore jeans and she said she had to live as a woman and I was like ‘but I wear jeans and my Mam wears jeans’ and she was like ‘when I’m a woman I’ll wear jeans too’.

I have a lot of sympathy for people transitioning I think you’re put in a no win wear girly clothes and be told you’re constructing an offensive sterotype, wear jeans and be at risk of not being put forward for the certificate.

But it’s the best way.

48harv · 21/01/2018 16:32

I also had a hard job donating blood afterwards I had to prove I had not had sex in my past life with a man I have donated 86pints to date and proud if it

48harv · 21/01/2018 16:35

There was no certificate back then I was in my own, I took letters I wrote myself to all the shops I used and advised them of what I was doing and that if they objected to me being in their store then I would respect that and look fir an alternative ,I did get a positive response from all the owners

Vicxy · 21/01/2018 16:36

But why do you equate a man dressing as a woman to that of a sex offender and a threat to your safety? Most offenders of this type are male and wouldn’t be seen dead in a dress,

fairplayforwomen.com/prisons/transgender-prisoners

Heres a good start, if you are genuinely interested. Massively overrepresented.

Vicxy · 21/01/2018 16:37

Note this is not necessarily about transsexual people, but people who 'identify' as 'transgender'

Deadlylampshade · 21/01/2018 16:39

Thanks harv

I’m glad that we’ve come to the same page because when you come on hear it must just seem like we’re screaming about trans women for no reason. It must be very frightening, but we’re not hateful I promise. We just want the best for everyone and our opinions puts us in the firing line for attack so we can sometimes be defensive. If you look on a thread that’s going on right now a woman’s officer in the Labour Party, a 19 year old trans woman, is compiling a list of women she wants thrown out of the party for wanting to debate this law.
Another thread you can see is a go fund me page set up to challenge the Labour Party as they said that ‘anyone who self identifies as a woman’ can take jobs reserved for women. This go fund me page has been phissed and they are trying to ‘out’ the women who donated as transphobes.

It’s really shocking and we’re all quite raw about it. So when a trans woman comes on the forum and tries to show us that they aren’t evil people to be afraid of, we can get very frustrated.

We’re not evil people to be afraid of either. I promise.

48harv · 21/01/2018 16:41

From that Friday 22 June 1990 I ceased being a man I through out all my male clothes and fortunately had an extensive female wardrobe to fall back on, Then all hell broke loose fir 3 months I was terrorised night and day I put a bucket of water under the letterbox as I feared an arson attack, but this is straying from the issue at hand. I will be writing to all the government figures I can to stop this lunacy

48harv · 21/01/2018 16:47

It’s not law yet we can still stop it if we unite , I will definatly be going to the March on the 8th , with the biggest banner I can carry to shout this is not a fair law

Deadlylampshade · 21/01/2018 16:48

That’s awful you were attacked, I am very sorry that was your experience and I truly hope that the world can become more tolerant.
As I said earlier my mother was a lesbian and when I was a child we were terrorised by a gang of local kids. They spray painted our house, put fireworks through the window, bricks through the window, just endless abuse, in the end the council moved us.
Though my experience is completely different I can fully empathise with that torment and it’s awful.

It’s my belief that if we didn’t have such strict gender rules then it wouldn’t be so difficult for society to accept people who step outside them.
We are fighting the same fight.

Deadlylampshade · 21/01/2018 16:50

I think a lot of women would be very happy to see you with that banner harv I know I would be.

Be prepared though you might experience a backlash too.

48harv · 21/01/2018 16:58

I have scanned your info on the prison issue.. mind bogglingly inept, no wonder you are angry, this is a licence to import sexual assault on a huge scale in what is a captive society sure there are lesbian encounters in a woman’s prison but importing a man , yes a man because if he has not had the corrective surgery he is a man , to allow this to enter a female prison is inconceivable and illogical

48harv · 21/01/2018 17:01

For years I have been looking after me and my main perogative was to be anonymous some things are wirth saying out loud NO THIS IS .WRONG