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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Labour party invents new bollocks made-up non-existent definition for woman

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pisacake · 11/01/2018 14:29

labour.org.uk/members/get-involved/national-youth-elections-2018/

Sixteen uses of the word 'self-defining woman'. Zero uses of 'female', 'biology', or plain 'woman'.

'Woman' is now literally meaningless. A woman can be a bog-standard heterosexual teenage male (Lily Madigan), if he says so.

And obviously with half the places reserved for 'self-defining women' (not 'women', 'self-defining women'), then there's not really any reason why men wouldn't define themselves a women, is there?

If misogynistic shits like Lily Madigan can 'self-define as a woman', well ALL men are women, aren't they?

The whole bloody human race is 'self-defined women'.

Stupid Labour.

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Snowdrop18 · 12/01/2018 14:46

but how can young voters be so illogical?

I'm beginning to think that when I was in my 20s and didn't know anything about what was going on schools, some really weird shit must have been happening.

Deadlylampshade · 12/01/2018 14:49

I think they’re going to be in for a shock because I think a lot of young people are just frightened of saying things out loud but many don’t go along with it either.

LapdanceShoeshine · 12/01/2018 14:51

Guns, when I looked at the official Labour page the only tweets showing were their own, even when I clicked on Tweets and Replies. I think a lot of organisations do that. (I don’t know how they do it but it would prevent complaints/abuse showing publicly)

gunsandbanjos · 12/01/2018 15:01

It doesn’t show in my tweets either though. It’s just weird.

LapdanceShoeshine · 12/01/2018 15:56

not under 'tweets & replies' either?

LapdanceShoeshine · 12/01/2018 15:57

your own I mean

gunsandbanjos · 12/01/2018 16:42

Nope, vanished into the ether.

irretating · 12/01/2018 17:09

Is it actually possible for a woman to self identify as a woman? To me self identification implies that you identify as or with something or someone, that wouldn't be obvious to the casual observer. You could if you were so inclined, self identify as a puppy or a child, but not as a human or an adult (if you are an adult). Or you could self identify as belonging to a particular religion or political party. It implies a choice in the matter, a decision.

Mner · 12/01/2018 17:13

Then why are there no self defined men?

UpABitLate · 12/01/2018 17:34

Yes in order to be eligible you have to "self define" as a woman (no period of time specified) and tick the box that says this is how you self define.

Cunty people who for whatever reason do not "self define" are not eligible. Could be non binary, could be bi-gender, agender, could be that they don't go along with the idea at all. The fact that they have cunts and all that is by the by - they are not suitable to represent women. Which makes sense, because presumably they represent not women but "self defined" women so in fact it's all going to be a bunch of blokes who don't give a fuck about women's rights - see LM support for anti-abortion Tory.

UpABitLate · 12/01/2018 17:35

Come now, everyone knows what a man is!

Men, non men. People, sub-people. You know this stuff!

FirstShinyRobe · 12/01/2018 17:47

How do you self-define as a woman with no definition of woman?

Are there any other examples where a noun which denotes a material reality has had its definition changed (among some) to something entirely nebulous in this way? With such enormous societal implications?

Glitterypinksoap · 12/01/2018 18:00

The point is that is forces biological women to 'self define' to qualify as women, therefore validating the phrase and concept.

Fekko · 12/01/2018 18:05

So a woman had to identify herself as such in relation to the male sex then? Interesting...

PillowCate · 12/01/2018 18:10

You have to actively self define as a woman. If you don't actively do that, you can't apply.

The point is that is forces biological women to 'self define' to qualify as women, therefore validating the phrase and concept.

FFS Angry [anrgy]

Shall we leave these tosser to self define as 'women' and come up for a new term for us people with vaginas? Any clever names out there for biological women?

FFS

UpABitLate · 12/01/2018 18:15

Supreme bucunted ones.

Is my vote.

Non-people is what I first suggested about 5 years ago on here as the actual answer.

UpABitLate · 12/01/2018 18:16

becunted!

Although bucunted has a certain something about it too.

Chillywhippet · 12/01/2018 18:22

Wimmin ?

Blast from the past. Oh the good old days...

gunsandbanjos · 12/01/2018 18:23

Do we have to self define as becunted?

UpABitLate · 12/01/2018 18:25

No of course not.

We are becunted.

We are the awesome becunted ones.

I'm going to see if I can persuade DH to call me that Grin

"Oh awesome becunted one, would you like a cup of coffee?" "Why yes thank you dicky".

UpABitLate · 12/01/2018 18:26

Maybe we need to get back into witchcraft and try and hex some fuckers. Note for screen-shotters re threats: My hexes are subpar, this is a minimal threat. Like Baldric with the curses, I can only manage 1 groat hexes.

BarrackerBarmer · 12/01/2018 18:33

There is a problem with
knowing that 50% of the population are female,
and that they are underrepresented in politics,
and pretending to address that by creating ring fenced positions for females
BUT then filling them with yet more males

And telling women that they are now represented proportionately because a male ticked a box.

All the while people with penises continue to be >50%
And people with vaginas continue to be

Mumsnut · 12/01/2018 18:35

If only we could self define as men, and go stand in their elections. Having made precisely no attempt to change our appearance or hormones.

And when they say, 'That's not right', say 'Precisely'.

But I can't think of any roles that are reserved for men that we could squat in. Because they don't need that help so don't have quotas, etc.

It is not until men feel that their preserves are being poached on that they will make any attempt to get their heads round this.

Fekko · 12/01/2018 18:36

Are there still ‘men only’ clubs? Maybe we need to start there.

Glitterypinksoap · 12/01/2018 18:39

Mumsnut considering that MRAs get aeriated about women having ONE women only even in race for life, and John Bloody Humphries is kicking off at the ridiculous idea of equal pay (particularly if it affects him) I don't think it would take very much at all to inconvenience men.

TBH the second this annoys white, straight, able bodied men all hell will break loose. I'm all for mass identification as men with absolutely no change to appearance or anything else, and simply entering and taking over men's spaces. All hell will break loose.