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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Bluestocking is open for business

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PricklyBall · 16/10/2017 21:02

I've scrolled back a few pages and I can't even find the last pub thread.

So I've taken the beer towels off the pumps, tapped a new barrel, polished the glasses, fed the goat and applied brasso to the patriarchy busting canon.

Come and join me - all tastes catered for - beer, gin, wine, cocktails, coffee and a nice cup of tea.

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SerendipityFelix · 24/10/2017 00:34

But isn't this so medical professionals can be sure the medication is being taken by who it's prescribed for, rather than potentially being passed on to others?

Why would medical professionals have to do that for this medication, and not every other medication prescribed for use at home?

It’s because abortion is illegal in the U.K., and only permitted under strict exceptions.

RomeyWooOOoo · 24/10/2017 06:44

Yes, it was my mistake, the clinic I was talking about says you can choose to go home after having the tablets but you will need an adult with you. So they are not letting women about to pass a pregnancy just leave themselves. Sorry, was tired and should not have posted.

But yes, for legal reasons, the medical professionals need to be sure who is taking the medication and probably for medical reasons too.

cheminotte · 24/10/2017 08:20

Can I have a coffee please? Been reading this and now have an ad for M&S bras.
20% donation to breast cancer if you buy a pink one. Aaargh! I've never bought a pink bra (well not since I was 12 anyway), why not just ALL bras!

NeverEverAnythingEver · 24/10/2017 08:30

I think if you are doing the "pink is girly" business doing a pink bra is just a bit of an overkill. Grin

(Having said that, the way things are going, perhaps we'll have manly heroic bras soon... Or perhaps we already do!?)

NoLoveofMine · 24/10/2017 09:13

In their defence, pink is the colour which is used to promote breast cancer awareness in various ways: ribbons, t-shirts etc, so I can see why M&S are linking the donations to pink bras specifically. I've just looked at the ones which qualify for the 20% donations and they include a couple of sports bras which aren't pink. It's a positive thing I think and much as it'd be nice if it was all bras I can see why they've gone for pink - I agree with the issues on pink being thrust upon girls generally but given the association of the colour with this campaign it's understandable I think.

NeverEverAnythingEver · 24/10/2017 10:23

Oh that's true NoLove!

CocoaXx · 24/10/2017 16:28

Speaking of M&S bras, they have a section of back extenders and pads in my local store which I can only think are for those broad of back, lacking boobage natally male women. I am happy to be proved wrong though, as I was with DD and did not want to examine the stand too closely. Maybe they are for women who have had a mastectomy but then why the back extender things? Sorry that probably sounds insensitive but I was genuinely curious.

DoopityDo · 24/10/2017 16:33

Pregnanct Women, maybe, to get a bit more time out of your current bras? My ribcage expanded by several inches when I was pregnant, though I didn’t have any significant change of cup size.

Or maybe M&S just don’t have the band size range of online shops so have a halfway house option.

eyebrowseyebrows · 24/10/2017 16:46

I’d also never considered, that the current law requiring women to take abortion medications in a clinic, can leave them miscarrying the pregnancy in public, on the bus home. One woman described passing her pregnancy in a toilet in a café. Women should absolutely be able to take the medication at home.

I hadn't ever thought about that. It's also a bit crazy as you take medical management drugs to bring on a missed miscarriage at home.

I'm going to take a guess that they're the exact same drugs...?

Quite often abortion clinics are some way from home...so I imagine a lot of women would end up passing her pregnancy on the way back which is very sad.

I'll add it to my list of 'it just wouldn't work this way if it was something that happened to men'.

BeyondNoone · 24/10/2017 16:49

I haven’t caught up properly but good news - my mums tests were pretty much okay; stage 1 hpv and a polyp removed, apparently nothing major to worry about Smile

In slightly not so good news, I think my marriage is over. Sad don’t want to talk about it yet though, so pretend I didn’t say anything.

NeverEverAnythingEver · 24/10/2017 16:58

CocoaXx I used those extenders things (I assume you mean the things that make your bra less tight) when I was pregnant.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 24/10/2017 17:43

Oh goodness beyond

Yay for your mum!!!!

SepiaTintedRose · 24/10/2017 17:55

Those cave men people illustrations - the woman has her breasts covered! I bet they'd have worn the same as the men. Or would both have worn nothing? (Our more recent ancestors must have worn a lot more to want to stay in this far too cold climate Hmm.) Argh, it's like illustrations of Adam and Eve with tastefully placed leaves... a bit ridiculous!

NoLove Actually thinking about it, the couple were both somewhat receptive to my concerns abot the trans issue - although I suspect he only listened in the first place because of her influence. I suppose it was more the societal level brainwashing than the individual level that struck me. They didn't really know much/hadnt thought much about the issue (and I don't know how pressing it is in France), and yet they were basically pro-trans. I've noticed this in others too, and it makes me think that society must already be "primed" in some way to accep the trans narrative; at the very least it doesn't actively conflict with anything in our current societal set-up, so people just vaguely accept it. But then trans people aren't fighting for rights exactly...

Grin sorry, just thinking...

QuentinSummers · 24/10/2017 18:52

beyond Flowers

PricklyBall · 24/10/2017 19:11

Glad to hear your mum is okay, beyond, and Flowers ... well, just random Flowers

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NeverEverAnythingEver · 24/10/2017 21:19

beyond Flowers

BeyondNoone · 25/10/2017 12:34

Thank you. I've posted in relationships for a hand hold. I feel dazed. :(

Terrylene · 25/10/2017 13:03

Interesting point of view from the organic world.

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Terrylene · 25/10/2017 13:05

Beyond Flowers Brew

cheminotte · 25/10/2017 20:44

Interesting Terrylene. Could the same logic be applied elsewhere perhaps?
I think we should have women's football and men's football rather than football and women's football. Why are we always 'other'?

CocoaXx · 26/10/2017 07:35

Flowers beyond

DoopityDo · 26/10/2017 15:38

beyond Flowers

SepiaTintedRose · 29/10/2017 10:34

Oh goodness; just reurned to this thread and realised I'd missed beyond's post due to wandering off halfway through posting...
Sorry beyond Flowers

Just poppd in to mention that apparently the Independent censors the word "sex"...

SepiaTintedRose · 29/10/2017 10:35

...sorry, which I feel means something/has implications but brain too mushed up to think properly right now...

ALittleBitOfButter · 30/10/2017 03:00

Ugh. I need a beer. Just joined a women in business facebook group and it's absolutely saturated with self--congratulatory 'share' posts from a transwoman. It's full of pictures of him cuddling up to celebrities at corporate women's events etc. Another place colonised. In particular there's lots of shared rants from SJW about how he's doing such a good job with his transactivist campaigning.