Feminists need to stop saying objectification is bad...

[QuentinSummers]

Rant coming up! About this article www.playboy.com/articles/trans-objectification

It's trans related so please click away if you don't want to discuss a trans take on feminism.

Apparently The message that being considered as a “sex-having and desiring” (how the author defines objectification) individual is universally negative is mostly based in the experiences of white, cis, thin, able-bodied people who have regular, and often too much, experience with sexual objectification.

I really don't think street harassment and cat calling are confined to "white, cis, thin, able bodied people".

In a feminist future, we stop saying that all objectification is categorically bad. In a feminist future, all trans people, people of size, people of color, and people with different abilities have the chance to get the types (if any) of objectification that we crave.
Feminism has bigger fish to fry than trying to force people to objectify trans people when they don't want to. I also hugely object to lumping "people of colour", "people of size" and "people of different abilities" into a huge amorphous blob that the author considers unattractive. Leave other "people's" experiences out of it.
But wait.....people do want to objectify this trans person but they are in denial People are often so scared of their desire for me that they avert their eyes. They can’t so much as look at me without fearing that their “deviant” desire for me will be revealed to the world (is it just me or is this a bit rapey, along the lines of "you know you want it?)

This whole article seems to me to epitomize AGP as the author is basically complaining no-one fancies them as much as they fancy themselves. They even say Trans people never get the sexual attention that we deserve. We are so hot, so sexy, so beautiful. We are skilled, compassionate, ferocious lovers.

I can't believe anyone pays for this kind of bilge. Imagine sitting in a lecture with this person going on about why, if objectification is so bad, why do they want it? QED, feminists have got it all wrong, objectification is good.

How do the catcallers know that the woman they are objectifying is "cis"? How do they know how she feels about her biology and gender?

They don't know and they really don't care about the woman and how she feels about being on the receiving end of their attention. All that matters is that they feel, fleetingly, good about themselves...a little braver, a little more manly, a little more powerful.

As a fat undesirable?? woman, I reject the idea that to be a "real" woman I need to be objectified and glad of it.

According to Wikipedia Jacob Tobia is a feminist writer.
This holding my hand over my brow lark is doing nothing for my adult acne I can tell you. All though the dropping of my jaw every five minutes might be working on my double chin.

Brand-new user saying Hi in my first message and damn, I am loving this thread. Narcissistic man wonders why straight men don't fancy him (nor women, who know red flags when they see them, for that matter). I am shocked, shocked I say.