Why are feminists so aggressive?

[BertrandRussell]

This, or something like it, it always being asked. People say that the FWR board on here is scary and hounds out people whose faces don't fit. That women are always being told they can't be feminists if.......And so on. And so on.

In my experiences, you are much more likely to get an aggressive response if you express a feminist point of view than the other way round. Is it just me? Or am I missing something?

There have been plenty of interesting feminists threads recently, where everyone seems to be holding their own- but the same old accusations keep coming up.

Not all all feminists are aggressive, just like not all men are violent, but there are definitely a fair few on here who will malign anyone who dares question the modus operandi.

It's like how everyone on here vehemently denies man hating but a quick search will evidence the following threads:

I bloody hate men
I'm starting to hate men
Are men in general just awful?
I hate men...sorry.
To wonder why quality of men is SO dire?
I HATE men
Please help me not to hate men
I absolutely categorically unequivocally hate men
Are all men useless?
Are MOST men horrible?
To wonder what’s effing wrong with men?
ALL men are bastards

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I suspect the Feminists might be angry over all the rape torture and abuse.
Just a thought.

I'm just wondering what search terms were used to bring up that list because I can't reproduce it. Was it an advanced search option?

To answer the OP question all the way back on page one: I don't know that I think that feminists are particularly agressive. Ideologues in general can be and perhaps they are the ones who most often present themselves with labels attached.

But I do think there is a tendency on this board to be sarcastic and nasty to people who don't agree about certain things. It pretty closely mirrors the type of shutting down that people here complain about when it goes on elsewhere. It tends to be the same people generally but it's not like anyone else tells them to back off.

But I do think there is a tendency on this board to be sarcastic and nasty to people

Isn't that just the Internet.

We)(the posters) don't generally issue death threats, rape threats, use slurs, post sexist memes and the various other things that posters generally complain about elsewhere.

Heck, I understand offering a biscuit can get you deleted in FWR

Funny you should bring up uncompromising and dogmatic. We were just talking about the unrelenting pressure on women and Feminists to compromise with Ideologues.

Nooo, not the sarcasm when disagreed with! Whatever next, the cushions and the comfy chair?

I'm just wondering what search terms were used to bring up that list

"Man hating mumsnet" into Google.

Silly to rely on a google search.

I did the same search. Lots of those examples aren't even on the FWR board. For example, "I hate men, sorry" is a thread on the Lone Parents board about a woman having relationship difficulties, and just venting about her partner. And it's from 2007.

The idea that we're all rabidly typing "I hate men" all day is ridiculous.

Thanks for that.

So I scrolled past a number of "mumsnet hate men" links before hitting your list of topics.

They seem to be mostly posts made on relationships so not us men haters in FWR.

One of the posts that does appear in FWR seems to have been made by quite a traumatised woman seeking help and has a lot of responses on trying to help the woman not to hate all men.

I couldn't find the last few posts as the search then branched out into father's 4 justice and other things.

However great news, mumsnet loves sausages far more than it hates men, pages of links before the search diverges.

Mumsnet certainly loves cake and gin

We)(the posters) don't generally issue death threats, rape threats, use slurs, post sexist memes and the various other things that posters generally complain about elsewhere

Not really a high bar. "We are ok here because we don't actually threaten to kill you."

If people wonder why there is a reputation of MN feminists as being aggressive, that's the answer, because pretty regularly they treat people poorly.

Oh, ffs, Goosefoot!
You cannot be serious?!

Mumsnet sarcasm is just as bad as AWA/TRA/MRA rape and death threats?!

Please have a think about that one!

Turned me right off feminism.

I’ve heard women (and men) day this before and it puzzles me. It parses as, “I thought I was a feminist, but I think feminists were mean to me, so I’ve gone off the whole idea of rights and opportunities for women”.

Not, “I decided not to hang with that particular group of feminists and pursue feminist activism in other places”, but, “No more feminism for me, they’re so mean.”?

Like, carry on with your systemic oppression of women based on control of their biology, menz, those women are too aggressive to deserve personhood?

It’s almost as if you weren’t really committed to the idea of women as fully human in the first place.

Why doesn't anyone ever tell men to be nice?

Of course mumsnet sarcasm isn't the same as death or rape threats. But why is the sarcasm etc necessary? I'm with Goosefoot and FWLurker on this one. It is possible to be respectful, which most posters are, and get your point across.

Sorry I mean Grapefruit not FWLurker!!!

Of all the things I am become bone tired of over my rather long life it is this one, of puzzling over why women persist in acting like people, that is on my last nerve.

We're just not civil enough. I hear that can get you into trouble round these parts.

Still, it's nice that some people are getting to grips with the concept of class analysis. If sarcasm being a prevailing tone on FWR means you can assess that all feminists are aggressive, then surely it's not that big a leap to deal with the idea that if men are responsible for a large percentage of violence in the world and especially towards women, we should view the class 'men' with some caution.

Let me know how you get on with the thought process, if you can get over me employing sarcasm to make my point.

ut I do think there is a tendency on this board to be sarcastic and nasty to people

AIBU and brexit

Anyone who thinks that people aren’t nasty or sarcastic on other boards ...isn’t looking at other boards

I wonder what the deleted post which resuscitated this thread was, and why...

Of all the things I am become bone tired of over my rather long life it is this one, of puzzling over why women persist in acting like people, that is on my last nerve.

Tch, tch , heaven forfend some of us sometimes get a tad sarcastic about this.

I wonder what the ratio of internet posts is between feminists (not women in general) actually displaying hatred of men versus feminists being accused of hating men?

Because we're done with being 'nice'. Being 'kind'.

Because we're done with shove up, put up and shut up.

Because we say 'no'.

wonder what the deleted post which resuscitated this thread was

One assumes it was nasty...maybe even sarcastic