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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Can we talk about this lip filler fashion

157 replies

squirreltrap · 11/08/2017 11:46

I'm just wondering if there is some feminist analysis for the current fashion for lip fillers. I don't want to slate the women who are doing it, just understand what the hell its all about!

My thoughts on it are:

  • it must be porn related?
  • are they designed to look like labia on your face?
  • it seems to be some obvious expression of sexual availability?
  • I've never spoken to a man who finds it attractive so that's confusing
  • it seems to make women look 'vulnerable' and low in self-esteem somehow, is that what is attractive? (Reminds me of the old feminist arguement about high heels being attractive because they render women unable to defend themselves I.e. Run away)

What's everyone else's view on this?

(And it is a feminist issue because it's women doing it to themselves)

OP posts:
Leilaniii · 11/08/2017 11:50

It's just a fashion made possible by new cosmetic technology. I wouldn't read too much into it.

abbsisspartacus · 11/08/2017 11:52

Pictures?

MrGHardy · 11/08/2017 11:55

Blowjob lips?

Maudlinmaud · 11/08/2017 11:59

I agree with it being the current fashion. I doubt anyone having it done is doing so for any other reason. But it's an interesting view.

QuiteLikely5 · 11/08/2017 12:02

How patronising!

Are you jealous?

SuitedAndBootedd · 11/08/2017 12:06

You seem to have the opinion women do this for men. I strongly disagree.

squirreltrap · 11/08/2017 12:13

Ok so why do women do it? That's the question I'm asking

OP posts:
Xenophile · 11/08/2017 12:13

Yes, larger lips are supposed to represent engorged labia, hence wearing lip colours that make your lips appear larger. Fuller lips are associated with youth and health, therefore having lip fillers is supposed to make you look young, healthy and able to bear children.

I suppose women might want to think they're younger and healthier than they are for their own reasons. I can't think of any, but it's not outwith the realms of possibility that other women might.

Xenophile · 11/08/2017 12:14

How patronising!

Are you jealous?

This is a joke, yes?

Aridane · 11/08/2017 12:21

I would assume women who have lip fillers just think it looks nice or are following the fashion for this type of lip

Aridane · 11/08/2017 12:22

A bit off topic - have you over noticed how in the Tudor portraits of Heny VIII's wifes and other notable women of that period how they all have very thin lips

Datun · 11/08/2017 12:27

Aridane

That's true. You also get the hooded eyes, pale face, and high forehead. Fashion again.

I think originally having lip fillers was meant to indicate youth. Because the older you get the thinner your lips become.

And, like a lot of these things, it has just fallen into a fashion. But it's a fashion dictated by what is perceived as being attractive to men.

Which as you say, is an odd one, because lots of men don't like it.

Although, many men fall into the mistake of thinking a woman has no make up on, when she has actually spent hours contriving a very natural look.

It might be that they just don't like the over exaggerated ones. But don't notice the more natural lip fillers.

VestalVirgin · 11/08/2017 12:28

I've never spoken to a man who finds it attractive so that's confusing

I suppose you just speak to the wrong men.

I'm pretty sure this comes from porn. Can remember having seen such lips combined with silicone breasts.

Many men you may meet in real life also don't find ultra-large breasts of the artificial kind attractive, but clearly, there's a demand for it.

Nothing is "just fashion", fashion doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Datun · 11/08/2017 12:31

I completely agree it's porn lead. Where else on the planet would you be able to find out the myriad and ever changing ways women are trimming their bush, bleaching bits of themselves, having fake boobs, lip fillers, etc.

As soon as it's in the media, on TV, magazines, etc, you can bet your life it's already been in porn for five years.

Orangebird69 · 11/08/2017 12:33

I'd like a little plumping in my top lip tbh. It's quite thin and disappears at the hint of a smile. My bottom lip is fuller so it looks uneven. I don't like thins lips. It makes some people look mealy mouthed and miserable sometimes. I don't however want a job in the porn industry, nor the look of a fanny on my face, nor and I wanting to give out the impression that I'm sexual available (Hmm). I'm also over 6ft and fairly confident in myself so the whole vulnerable with low self esteem doesn't really apply either.

A spiteful post OP. Do you enjoy digging out other women for the personal choices they make?

wuckfit · 11/08/2017 12:34

I think you are being highly offensive, its personal opinion.

Just because someone wants fuller lips does not mean they are in the porn industry Hmm

histinyhandsarefrozen · 11/08/2017 12:38

How is she being highly offensive?
Have you never discussed fashion or style before?

Why do you think she is jealous, quite? Do you have reason to believe the op wants fillers but is too poor or for some reason unable to source them?

AnyFucker · 11/08/2017 12:38

Did somebody really say "are you jealous" in the feminism section ? Grin

wuckfit · 11/08/2017 12:39

'It must be porn related'
'Are they designed to look like labia on the face?'

This.

wuckfit · 11/08/2017 12:41

@Datun I fully trim my 'bush' because I find it more comfortable, I do not want a national forest between my legs or spiders legs poking out the sides of my underwear thank you.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 11/08/2017 12:41

You find that highly offensive? Really?

Surely a 'no!' Would suffice.
I don't think they are designed to look like labia on a face either.

Datun · 11/08/2017 12:42

Wanting fuller lips doesn't at all mean you want to work in the porn industry! Where the hell did you get that from?

However, it's not a particularly contentious opinion to recognise that physical fashion often starts with the porn industry.

ExConstance · 11/08/2017 12:44

I've always presumed that the purchasers of this "enhancement" probably wanted moderate fullness, to avoid the thin lipped look, but got a bit more than they bargained for, e.g. Lesley Ash. Maybe if you develop "cats bum" lines they need to use a lot of filler to pull them out?

VestalVirgin · 11/08/2017 12:45

And may I point out that here in the feminism section, no one is interested in whether something is your choosey choice?

We do analysis of society in general here. Your individual choosey choice doesn't look so choosey choicy anymore when one sees that for some weird reason many, many, many people make the same choosey choices despite that not having been the case a few years earlier.

QuentinSummers · 11/08/2017 12:46

Yes lips on face are meant to subconsciously mimic aroused labia. That's why red/pink/purple lipstick as well as full lips are what looks most attractive.
I think lip filler is just a continuation of that.

:www.google.co.uk/amp/s/yesterface.wordpress.com/2011/06/05/why-do-women-wear-red-lipstick/amp/