Wtf anyone listening to woman's hour now?

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No time to type write now but if you are I would like to discuss!

I was half listening to this...did my ears deceive me or did she end by suggesting that menopausal women might provide the solution to the sexual needs of young men with ASD????

Yes she did newt. Apparently menopausal divorced women in HRT and autistic men have the highest sex drives so should date each other Bizarre

that she suggested early on that young girls weren't broad minded enough to consider a relationship with someone not neurological and that girls needed to broaden their horizons.

Astounding. Never mind ignoring girls who are similar in neurological terms, this is quite insulting to girls, implying it's girls who "aren't broad minded" in these terms (and also again that girls owe boys sex) but completely ignoring how many boys speak of girls, judging and rating looks/bodies, completely dismissing any who don't meet strict criteria (then deriding those who do who don't conform to their wishes of how girls should act anyway).

I still can't get over her son be put in this position. Does he have a full enough understanding of prostitution? When he understands it will he be happy enough to go ahead? He's vulnerable, the prostitues are vulnerable, they are both getting used.

What a sweeping generalisation too. My sex drive in my early 20's was high. I doubt it could be higher when I'm menopausal.

Surely just a modern equivalent for the cool mum buying alcohol for her teens and telling anyone who would listen.

But to girls his own age, his idiosyncrasies prove just too exotic. People on the autistic spectrum are truly original but the average teenage girl doesn’t think outside the ‘neurotypical’ box

From The Daily Mail article.

Unable to resist looking due to that ridiculous quotation, I then saw this:

Since hitting puberty, my son has attempted everything to attract females – everything bar sauntering through town holding a placard saying, ‘Free Designer Shoes!’

My goodness.

Thing is he won't be the only teenager to have bad luck with the opposite sex. Many many NT boys and girls have bad luck with the opposite or same sex. That's just life, sometimes it takes time to find the right person even just for a casual relationship. It's not an excuse for their parents to pimp them out

Quite. Also, it seems how many boys see girls and the narrow criteria for girls who are acceptable for them to "date" is totally acceptable to her. Girls with autism are also not mentioned, so presumably they're not entitled to sex or being desired as partners, only boys are. I despair at how so many, women like her included, see girls (and women).

Yes I spotted that one.

So far as The Daily Mail (a) might as well know what they are saying and (b) they can occasionally be surprising in the line they take on things. At least with The Mail you just think - " no that's wrong" and they don't have the reams of pretentious wittering The Guardian goes in for.

Kathy Lette used to be bloody everywhere. "Hubby's human handbag" was one of her oh so witty phrases to describe herself which she used at every opportunity. I'm actually annoyed I still remember it- along with the line Leanne, Leanne the footy fan from the vile ^Girls' Night Out". I think the latter stayed with me because it was such a hateful story.

I had heard the name because I vaguely remember reading a bit of an interview with her (during which she was described as a feminist) in The Sunday Times a couple of years ago because it was lying in front of me when I was bored waiting for some food to heat up. Given all this, I'd rather that was all I'd ever known of her. Her view of teenage girls is doubtless widely held but enraging nonetheless.

Lass i can top that. Men Ive Loved Before by Adele Parks Reproductive coercion dressed up as romance. Fucking appalling.

Eugh, what a horrible thing to do to your son - he's an adult, and has his own career that makes him recognisable.

Her son's problem seemed to be that he couldn't find someone who fancied him in his teens. This is true of many men and women. And not true for my two closest autistic school friends, who had relationships years before many neurotypical friends of mine.

A sensible line of questioning would ask her to examine if she would have felt the same about a son without autism, or a daughter with autism. The way autism is described in the article really plays into the stereotype, and the examples of his 'odd' knowledge aren't even obscure things.

Given her attitude towards teenage girls it wouldn't surprise me if she'd feel the same way about a son whatever the case - as I imagine quite a few might do, evil teenage girls being so shallow and not being "open minded" enough to choose their son (also a refrain of many misogynists who complain about not getting sex).

This men must be allowed to do things has haunted me for years. I was always over thinking everything or not looking at both sides whenever I commented that things were wrong and this clearly is. Entitlement by any man still seems to be the way of things. And there was me hoping it had died out.

Not sure how this (dreadful) woman humiliating her son is evidence of male entitlement.

Men at entitled to women's bodies is all I am seeing from this and some when believe that and will endorse their son raping another women for money.

So her son is a rapist as well as a loser now.

Really offensive post there hasitcometothis Her son is autistic. There is no suggestion he even knew about his mother's idiotic plan let alone went along with it.

I don't agree this is an example of male entitlement. It is perfectly reasonable of him to be sad about not having a relationship; it is his mother who thinks he is entitled.

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No, she didnt go ahead with the plan, she researched it to write about it. And talked about it on air without his input.

I didn't hear WH this morning thankfully. And I wasn't aware of Kathy Lette, but after a quick google, she seems like a fame hungry, crazy person.
How awful for her son to have a mother discussing his private life with the world.

Sorry I think hasitcometothis might have been commenting sarcastically on lookatmeimsandrabee's comment.

I agree , not sure how this (dreadful) woman humiliating her son is evidence of the son displaying male entitlement.

Terrible interview imo...next option for boys like him according to Kathy Lette are 50+year old women who can have their own sexual needs met and mother the boys wtf

I think there is a general belief that it's worse for men to go without sex than women - as is evidenced by the link upthread about the court ruling that was overturned. The idea that her son was a nice boy so girls should date him fits with men being entitled to sex.

I'm not at all doubting that it must have been horrible to face all that bullying and feel so lonely, but that experience is relatively common. And her son is a successful man who has had several relationships now, so I think she is using the fact that he is autistic in quite a calculating way for her own gain.

Sorry but I guess i am looking at it with the end goal being an autistic young man should be able to have sex because he is male. I doubt any mother would suggest an autistic young lady should have sex with anyone. Even is she only researched it. Katie Price was quoted in the Metro that she was considering the same thing for her son Harvey, apparently it was on Loose Women which I don't watch. But Kathy and Katie both seem to think that their boys "deserve" to lose their virginity so it appears to me society is teaching entitlement when mothers feel this is something that should be talked about and encouraged. This seems to me that mothers are putting their boys on pedestals because society teaches this is what should be done. Maybe if my boys were autistic I would see it differently but I hope not.

Even if she thinks that men need sex more than women, the leap to think they're therefore entitled to it, is completely wrong.