Nordic Model on the Big Questions tomorrow

[LauraMipsum]

The BBC's political equivalent of Jeremy Kyle is hosting "has the time come to decriminalise sex work" tomorrow morning.

I'm going to be in the audience; if anyone wants to support the Nordic model voice via twitter please do!

Does that mean I go the next 40-50 years without sex?

Is that supposed to be a reasonable justification for the existence of a subclass of women you can pay to fuck?

I explained earlier that infection control is nigh on impossible

And yet nurses, doctors, masseurs, dentists etc. manage it. Could it be sharp intake of breath that this isn't a normal job like any other? Like it's damaging to women in a way that other ways of getting money aren't!

Still though, happy penis trumps all right? Who cares what risks those women are taking, they should just charge more - not too much of course, because it wouldn't be right that you can't still buy your way into their mouth/vagina

I'd prefer to educate the men that buying sex is wrong. That putting women at risk isn't acceptable.

Currently sex is too cheap and too easily available. 1 hour with a sex worker is cheaper than the average date in London.

Criminalisation would reduce that demand. Combine it with really serious penalties for pimps and traffickers and then the cost/benefits analysis starts to look a little different.

Jumping into bed with a different woman every few weeks stops me from ending it all. Gives me reason to live

Think how it makes them feel.

Actually - you've just given me a brainwave.

Gender should become a prostitute. He gets to have sex, and get paid for it - simultaneously earning himself a good living, and staving off his depression. After all, it's apparently a good career, nothing wrong with it, so why not?

I can imagine how grim it would be if criminalised. Metal doors, pimps opening them up. Young Romanian girls who offer all services (any orifice) at £60 an hour. No showering and no wipes. A complete nightmare for everyone but still men would go and all control would shift to violent criminals.

Choco I have had women tell me to whore myself out. I never took them seriously. I had one friend jokingly say I should tag along on a hen night for entertainment for the women. I had no issue with that, just she realised it would be a hard sell to convince her friends.

Nothing makes me as happy as sex.

Good lord choc thats a fab idea

Can we please not encourage advocate into giving us all the details? He seems to be enjoying it.
advocate these sex workers are not your friends. You are a customer of theirs, of course they are going to be nice to you.

Not as many men would go. The demand wouldn't require so many women. We wouldn't as a society be legitimising the idea that women are the sex class.

Legalisation would increase trafficking as demand would be higher and there aren't enough local women. This is what has happened in Holland and Germany. There is huge exploitation and involvement of organised criminal gangs. It's easy to hide violence and coercion in plain sight.

That's what's important, right, men's happiness?

It's interesting though. If I had a spare £50 sex would be the last thing I'd buy. I'd buy some expensive shampoo probably and a nice cake with the change.

Gender you're wasting your time trying to reason here. Choc & Venus have showed how narrow minded they are but out of interest what do you both think about people with disabilities paying for sex?

To be fair quentin i dont think anyone is encouraging him

I'm not narrow minded, I have a particular opinion about prostitution which isn't the same as yours. Get over yourself.

He's not "reasoning" he's putting forward his own self-serving point of view.

And I don't believe in prostitution. I don't believe anyone has a right to sex.

Venus I'm happy to get over myself but still wondering what you think of people with disabilities paying for sex?

people with disabilities paying for sex?

I think that you're underselling people with disabilities - many of which could find partners the normal way.

No-one has a right to sex, no-one has the right to endanger someone else, just so they can orgasm. Sorry if you find that narrow minded. I have said that I would support full regulation, but only within a real H&S framework that protected the women (or men) involved.

BTW Gender - I didn't necessarily mean with women, perhaps you could come up with a barter deal with other men who want to abuse women whereby you suck his dick and he'll suck yours for free - you get twice the sex, and don't have to spend a penny then!

I've just answered you. I don't believe sex is a human right and that prostitution is wrong. No exceptions. I'm not sure why you think I'd feel any different.

Cross post, so I'm guessing from the above you don't agree with people with disabilities paying for sex either? You call it your point of view, I call it narrow minded.

Sorry I can't keep up with your constant posts, message received and understood.

How many times exactly do you wish me to say it? No I don't think anyone has the right to expect other people to fuck them.

DFOD.

The BBC's political equivalent of Jeremy Kyle is hosting I'm sorry I'm not having the lovely Nicky Campbell described like that