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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

“All power given to women in our current culture has to be power that men lose.”

31 replies

Penhacked · 26/02/2017 21:47

A Mary Beard quote.

Which male in power would you happily see the back of and which female would you replace them with? Grin

Trump not allowed. Too easy. It can be low level too, like your boss or a headmaster.

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Doobigetta · 26/02/2017 22:05

Replace Murdoch with Ariana Huffington.

DeviTheGaelet · 26/02/2017 22:09

Odd question. I tend to think in classes of people rather than individuals. So clearly there are not enough women in senior positions. But naming men who don't deserve their jobs and women who should have them instead is a step too far for me Confused

Lessthanaballpark · 26/02/2017 22:11

Not "powerful" in real sense but in our coll psyche. Any of the series like Dr Who, James Bond, Death In Paradise where one white male lead gets swapped out for another white male lead.

But then we'd have to provide interloper female with extra security in anticipation of death / rape threats / abuse on social media!

VestalVirgin · 26/02/2017 23:36

I don't know any names, as I have more important uses for my memory, but there's lots of overpaid, incompetent managers who waste money and ruin companies and still get paid way too much.

Those should all be replaced with competent women.

HelenDenver · 02/03/2017 22:45

I'd see the back of Jeremy Corbyn. For Yvette Cooper, preferably.

makeourfuture · 03/03/2017 07:28

Replace Murdoch with Ariana Huffington

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 03/03/2017 08:28

I'd see the back of Jeremy Corbyn. For Yvette Cooper, preferably

I was lambasted on an FWR thread when he first became leader for saying what a disaster he was for the Labour party.

Bitofacow · 03/03/2017 08:33

Yvette Cooper for JC brilliant idea. Added bonus her husband is a bit of fluff who can dance!

Xenophile · 03/03/2017 09:30

I was lambasted on an FWR thread when he first became leader for saying what a disaster he was for the Labour party.

So you were. But some people are able to change their view as new information becomes available, which is the mark of intelligence. Would you like apologies from people?

I haven't heard the Mary Beard quote in context, does anyone have a link?

ISaySteadyOn · 03/03/2017 10:59

Lessthanaballpark, DH and I are in agreement that we would both like Marina Sirtis to play the Doctor. She once said she would like to. As for Death in Paradise, just promote Florence.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 03/03/2017 12:55

So you were. But some people are able to change their view as new information becomes available

I think Corbyn's unsuitability for the job was obvious during his first leadership campaign let alone the second.

His misogynistic tendencies were also apparent from an early stage of his leadership. It was mildly amusing to see the vociferous defence put up.

On a less flippant note having stood and lost probably means Cooper's chances have been scuppered by him.

HelenDenver · 04/03/2017 20:31

Oh Lass.

I am an FWR regular.

Like the rest of the regulars, including yourself, I am not Borg.

I have never supported Corbyn.

HelenDenver · 04/03/2017 20:34

Which of these threads was the lambasting on, Lass?

www.mumsnet.com/SearchArch?search_origin=mobile&mustmatch=Corbyn&dontmatch=&nickname=Lasswithedelicateair&fromDate=&toDate=

BarrackerBarma · 04/03/2017 20:59

I'd happily swipe the majority of male actors off our screens and replace them with female ones at a ratio of 3 women to 1 man on every programme or movie. Just for a decade or three. Enough for a generation of girls to learn what the average boy's experience currently is.

Ditto politicians, CEOs, surgeons, world leaders.

Then parity between the sexes thereafter. Possibly.

LastGirlOnTheLeft · 04/03/2017 22:53

Definitely my small boss. And I make NO apologies for pointing out his smallness as I do believe that, for men, the Napoleon complex is real and powerful! In a company of 150, with 144 female workers and a boss who is a tiny, tooty man with Napoleon complex, who regularly fires out emails about our phones, flexi, leave, blah blah....I think HERE is a prime example of bullshit patriarchy!

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 05/03/2017 00:42

Which of these threads was the lambasting on, Lass?

Goodness Helen I'm so impressed by the effort you have gone to try and discredit a post of mine. Even I am allowed a name change.

I was probably using the name ALassUnParalleled at the time. ( a name that I picked after being told on FWR that "lass", despite being a common regional usage from where I come from is offensive and Shakespeare's beautiful words are sexist)

Do get back to me in case you can't find the thread in case it might have been another name. Unlike most posters on here I don't hide behind regular name changes but I have had a couple of different names.

I got a flaming for posting that I hoped that the ineptitude of Corbyn would result in an early coup. I am a member of the Labour party. I have twice not voted for Corbyn.

birdsdestiny · 05/03/2017 00:47

To be honest I would swap a Muppet for Corbyn let alone a competent woman.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 05/03/2017 01:18

I think Corbyn and his supporters have destroyed the Labour party.

HelenDenver · 05/03/2017 08:45

Not hiding behind name changes, Lass. I consider it sensible post Jeffreygate. YMMV.

Your consistent insistence that FWR "regulars" speak with one voice and they are all "agin" you (despite your own frequent poster status) would make you identifiable whatever your name, TBH.

I'm also a Labour Party member who voted against Corbyn

But you continue with your personal narrative of persecution. 'Twas ever thus.

Xenophile · 05/03/2017 11:47

Name changes are a bad thing? I'll bear that in mind.

How about using different names on FWR and AIBU so people can't link your regular poster on FWR status when posting slagging off FWR on AIBU?

Is that a bad thing too?

What about grossly misrepresenting other posters? That ok?

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 05/03/2017 19:02

I've left the Labour party over Jeremy Corbyn - well, that and the serious efforts by senior party figures to make Labour pretty much unelectable. It's dismal.

If I had to pinpoint a group I'd like to swap it would be judges. There are far too few women judges and I think a more balanced bench would benefit everyone.

BarrackerBarma · 05/03/2017 21:41

Oh but there's this judge, Prawn!

Victoria McCloud Inn: Lincoln’s Inn When she was made a Master of the High Court (Queen’s Bench Division) in 2010 at the age of 46, McCloud was the youngest person ever to be so appointed, in addition to being only the second woman

(A few more women like this and there'll be no need for actual women at all to be represented! Hurrah!)

“All power given to women in our current culture has to be power that men lose.”
HelenDenver · 06/03/2017 11:52

Ah, was it this one, then, Lass?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2466449-The-Labour-Party-leadership-election?messages=100&pg=1

I don't see a lambasting. I see a disagreement with both sides speaking about their positions, and a fair few, including myself, not being keen on Corbyn.

Hardly you against the Borg, was it?

QuentinSummers · 06/03/2017 18:20

Interesting to read that thread again given last year's political events. Lass was on the money about JC

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