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Why do so many men turn bad...?

418 replies

Destinysdaughter · 27/01/2017 18:44

Was just thinking about this, May be simplistic but was wondering why so many men end up being rapists, paedophiles, DV abusers, stalkers etc?

Is it something in their family background, being a victim of abuse themselves, conditioning, or something else?

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Notwhatiexpected · 07/02/2017 18:23

Sorry that anecdote was about your "colleague".

"I was at work in the kitchen a few weeks ago and a male colleague of mine was having his muscles felt by the HR Director (a woman) she felt his arms and put her hands on his chest above his nipples and squoze/squeezed!" etc.

I apologise for incorrectly suggesting that women had lost control around you, become a victim of their female hormones.

I am sorry I suggested that you might be a woman magnet because of your alpha sexy smells.

Thank you for the clarification.

Jmslvlc990 · 07/02/2017 18:24

Datun my point is ; Is he being objectified and exploited by entitled women just because they have money and they can?
Or is he coining it and having a bloody good time whilst making a lot of women very happy?

Notwhatiexpected · 07/02/2017 18:25

The happy hooker story. Can I call BINGO on this game?

Jmslvlc990 · 07/02/2017 18:25

Nots - Very gracious of you! Thankyou! 😊

Jmslvlc990 · 07/02/2017 18:27

Assassin why does money changing hands mean it's not consensual?
If I pay for a massage does that mean it wasn't consensual?

Datun · 07/02/2017 18:30

Datun my point is ; Is he being objectified and exploited by entitled women just because they have money and they can?
Or is he coining it and having a bloody good time whilst making a lot of women very happy?

Well you've answered that question yourself. You told me is very happy.

I still don't know what your point is.

AssassinatedBeauty · 07/02/2017 18:31

Jms if you can't differentiate between intimate sexual activity and giving a massage or doing physio then I'm not sure it's worth trying to explain anything to you about what I think.

Jmslvlc990 · 07/02/2017 18:32

Datun you said;
"I bet he's not happy"

I replied; "He's very happy"

You replied; "... and your point is?"

M0stlyBowlingHedgehog · 07/02/2017 18:33

So you know a happy hooker. Bully for you. I know an ex prostitute who was trafficked into prostitution aged 13, hated it, is still deeply traumatised by it and is still trying to kick the drugs habit that got her through the day.

That's why the plural of anecdote is anecdotes, not data.

Datun · 07/02/2017 18:33

No-one should touch somebody up without their consent.

Datun · 07/02/2017 18:34

Datun you said;
"I bet he's not happy"

I replied; "He's very happy"

You replied; "... and your point is?"

I still don't know what you're trying to say! He is happy, I was wrong Good on him.

M0stlyBowlingHedgehog · 07/02/2017 18:35

I'd also like to know what Jms' evidence is for his assertion that all men spend all day thinking sexually (or at least assessing sexually) every single woman they meet. Is it peer reviewed? Is it widely accepted by psychologists? Is it based on "locker room banter"? Or is he merely projecting from his own mental landscape onto every other man in the world?

Jmslvlc990 · 07/02/2017 18:37

Assassin massages can be very intimate - as can wiping the shit off someone's arse or changing their catheter in a care home is that also not consensual unless it's done with out payment. What's so special about giving genital pleasure rather than giving any other physical pleasure (eg foot or head massage) that it suddenly becomes non-consesual ?

Jmslvlc990 · 07/02/2017 18:39

Datun this is getting rather circular. My point/question was; Is he being objectified and exploited?

Datun · 07/02/2017 18:41

M0stly

There are very likely some men who think like that. And women's radar are finally honed to recognise them.

Even if they are conventionally 'gorgeous' these men have creep written across their forehead.

It never ceases to amaze me that men don't make the connection that those men who want women to provide them with sex the most, are those who rarely succeed.

AssassinatedBeauty · 07/02/2017 18:42

jms it's the sexual aspect not the intimate aspect that is relevant to consent.

Datun · 07/02/2017 18:43

What's so special about giving genital pleasure rather than giving any other physical pleasure (eg foot or head massage) that it suddenly becomes non-consesual ?

Says A Man.

Datun · 07/02/2017 18:46

jms

When a man gives you a deep sports massage and drills down into those muscles that really need relief.

Yay!

Then ask him to bend over while you do him up the arse.

Notwhatiexpected · 07/02/2017 18:48

Intimate massages....genital pleasure the same as a back rub etc.

Just an opinion, but you may have boundary (or lack of) issues.

But I am bored of this now, you are correct too circular and a lack of credibility.

Please please go back to describing Utopia, what are the sexy lady uniforms like? Will men's urges be fully satisfied? Describe to us how we will manage the domestic setup, will men have many happy wives and lovers? What about the non alphas? Can we boost their hormones?

Jmslvlc990 · 07/02/2017 18:50

Mostly re: your 13 yr old traffic'd prostitute - horrific, wicked, the perpetrators should be locked away for a very long time and the youngster be given all the help and support possible!
Workers of all ages are traffic'd for all types of work from all over the world all the time. Farm labourers, domestic servants, Chinese cockle pickers in morecambe bay was one horrible incident I remember where many of the workers (some if not all of them traffic d) drowned one night as the the tide came in too quickly.
But does that tragic example mean we should ban cockle picking or farming! No of course not! It's means we should regulate it and controll it!

Notwhatiexpected · 07/02/2017 18:50

Childcare? Will all the attractive girls be encouraged to serve the state funded sex services?

Notwhatiexpected · 07/02/2017 18:51

Who is looking after the kids? Is it the ladies who aren't so sexy anymore?

Does that even work when men literally want sex all the time with all the women. Even the dinner ladies?!?!

AssassinatedBeauty · 07/02/2017 18:52

Because cockle-picking is exactly the same as being a prostitute.

Chinnygirl · 07/02/2017 18:52

I don't know about most men but I seriously think that my nephew will turn out to be a rapist and an abuser. He has always been very evil. I don't mind naughty kids but he really is evil. He loves hurting people. He loves abusing other kids. He is the biggest bully in the playground. He is so mean, the second he leaves home neither his granddad or I will want to see him again. He is niot allowed in our house because he will try to kill our pets. He has a couple of screws loose and has been seeing a child psychologist for some time. SS is also involved. The parents are now going to send him to a psychiatrist and he has already been prescribed drugs to make him more calm. His mother realises that he can turn out like that. She is also scared that he will kill himself because he has said some suicidal stuff. She also thinks he will end up in jail or dead. It is a big worry for them.

He was just born this way. His siblings are well behaved cute kids.

Chinnygirl · 07/02/2017 18:53

Oops O posted begore I could edit for readability, sorry

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