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Danielle Muscato

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feminazi · 10/12/2016 20:37

So, Muscato has been all over the media the past week after having a Twitter rant at Trump. Muscato was praised for being a vocal female activist...

All MSM is reporting this story in the same way, ignoring the elephant in the room...

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HelenDenver · 15/01/2017 23:08

I'm just going to leave this here, in case anyone needs to locate the theory board.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/feminist_theory

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Beachcomber · 15/01/2017 23:14

I don't know whether Danielle Muscato is trolling or not. I'm inclined to think not.

It doesn't really matter to me cos he shows current trans ideology up whether he is doing clever satire or actually believes his own narcissistic hype.

A big reveal would be interesting to watch but I think any point would be lost in the faux outrage.

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BitOutOfPractice · 16/01/2017 05:39

Can I ask a question.

If DM doesn't feel the need to change anything about his appearance etc in order to make his identification as a woman more obvious / acceptable etc, why the name change to a feminine name? Why not be called Pete or Dave or whatever?

Sorry if that's a stupid question or phrased clumsily.

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CharlieSierra · 16/01/2017 07:08

Danielle said its a gradual process, starting with name and pronouns and presenting in a more 'feminine' way will come later. Make of that what you will. Danielle might just be pushing the concept of 'I say therefore I am' to the absolute max, you know, because they can.

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Twogoats · 16/01/2017 08:18

You'd think they'd at least shave their beard! Shock

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Beachcomber · 16/01/2017 08:49

He has tweeted before that it is misogynistic (or it might have been transmisogynist) to question his femaleness because of his looks. It certainly doesn't seem to be a burning issue of body dysphoria with Muscato.

Which I thought was a prerequisite for being transgender. Or is that only for children Hmm

So the new goalposts are that gender dysphoria in children is almost always proof alone that they must be transed to their authentic selves but that in adults gender dysphoria isn't that important. Adults just know they are of the opposite sex because they do but their bodies are not necessarily "wrong". Adults just know that children are of the opposite sex because they have gender dysphoria - this means that children's bodies are wrong and they must be fixed. So trans children are born in the wrong bodies but trans adults not necessarily so.

Right. Got it. All very logical, coherent and no contradictions there at all. All very scientific and medically sound and ethical.

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HelenDenver · 16/01/2017 08:52

What is the "gynae" that is being hated in the case of GM?

Gah.

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HelenDenver · 16/01/2017 08:53

DM, not GM!

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Terfing · 06/09/2017 12:43

Muscato is at it again... He's complaining on Twitter that he was mis-gendered in a shop, despite clearly wearing female shoes...

That man is his own parody!

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ludog · 06/09/2017 16:18

"So sorry, my psychic WiFi is down today"

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MightyMikey · 06/09/2017 18:30

Found a post on Reddit only this morning about this stunning lady. DM is very upset at being misgendered, because as far as I can tell - wearing red shoes means you're definitely a woman. Poor sales assistant, I hope she doesn't get disciplined for this.
Am I correct in thinking that DM took a place at a homeless shelter for women only - I'm sure I read that somewhere!
Reddit Post

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MightyMikey · 06/09/2017 18:37

Let's try that link again. Oops
Gender Critical Reddit

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Datun · 07/09/2017 08:36

His parents went to court to get him removed from their house. That tells you something.

What pisses me off is people online saying he's not even trying.

What? Not even attempting to change the laws of biology? Poor show.

So he stands there in a suit with a beard, and loads of people totally understand how parents don't want their four-year-old daughter getting changed next to him.

But wear a dress and some female shoes, and that's much better?

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Ereshkigal · 07/09/2017 09:15

I know what you mean Datun. But it feels like he's trolling us in plain sight. And still the cheerleaders don't pause to think.

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MightyMikey · 07/09/2017 09:17

The Trans ideology is held to ridicule with this guy - if you say you are a woman then you are, no matter what - including biology (beard, skeletal build, male entitlement, etc).
It underlines that the TRAs are all about what you look like and how you present in a stereotypical way - all the things feminists say harm us and put us at a disadvantage in our every-day lives.
DM will be a lot of peoples' Peak Trans moment, he is going further with his thinking than most TRAs and saying it's not even about the pretty dresses, its all about his "pretty pink brain". How I can tell what pro-nouns to use when I come across this type of person is anyones guess - are you a man in a dress (he), a gurl (she), gender fluid (I will have a mental breakdown whatever you use).
DM and Stephonknee are my go-to examples to give to people questioning whether this is harmless or not - they are my "Peak Trans"

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Ereshkigal · 07/09/2017 09:21

Yes, people don't whine about misgendering so much with certain people. Which shows their hypocrisy as by their logic he is as good a transwoman as any. If they can feel they are a woman so can DM.

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Ereshkigal · 07/09/2017 09:22

I'm talking about the die hard gender identity ideologues, not otherwise reasonable people on the cusp of peak trans.

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Datun · 07/09/2017 09:56

Ereshkigal

I completely agree. Many people are questioning whether he is a troll. But he's been doing it for years, and is completely consistent.

I suspect he is an autogynephile, who has now got the courage to fetishise in plain sight.

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MightyMikey · 07/09/2017 10:04

The defining aspect of an Autogynephile is that the boundaries have to move forward, because what they felt is no longer as erotically charged as it used to be. Starting with crossdressing in secret, with mum/sisters stolen underwear, moving to fully dressing in secret, moving to fully dressing in public, moving to getting other people to treat you as "girl" (funnily enough never really the age they are, ie middle aged or old men, always teen/20 something girls).
Most Trans are AGPs who need to move their sexual boundaries to get the same excitement - this includes violating women's spaces and the need to have other people validate their fetish.

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cafeaulaitpourvous · 07/09/2017 10:22

I have looked at the twitter response and It looks like a load of folk have hit peak trans.

Even some who are transgender themselves.

It's an own goal !

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ArcheryAnnie · 07/09/2017 11:39

Muscato is so fucking abusive, trying to get a service worker sacked for saying "sir". And the nonsense of claiming that if you wear pretty shoes then of COURSE you are a woman!

But taking a place in a women and children's homeless shelter, even when offered alternatives, thus making that shelter completely inaccessible for women who could not share space with such an abusive male - that really is the utter worst behaviour I can think of.

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Ereshkigal · 07/09/2017 12:23

But taking a place in a women and children's homeless shelter, even when offered alternatives, thus making that shelter completely inaccessible for women who could not share space with such an abusive male - that really is the utter worst behaviour I can think of.

I agree. And he's doing it deliberately because he enjoys the power and the attention. But I think a lot of transactivists are like that.

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nauticant · 07/09/2017 12:41

I was interested in the twitter response so had a look and saw this:

twitter.com/DanielleMuscato/status/905660544161505280

haven't had beard since '14

with this apparently being the contemporary appearance:

twitter.com/SophiaSmith222/status/905718523783204864

What the true is of these matters I have absolutely no idea.

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bambambini · 07/09/2017 15:55

He's having a laugh and loving the attention and hoping to make some money off of all this. He's scamming and great news for gen crit concerns.

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