Danielle Muscato

[feminazi]

So, Muscato has been all over the media the past week after having a Twitter rant at Trump. Muscato was praised for being a vocal female activist...

All MSM is reporting this story in the same way, ignoring the elephant in the room...

I'm pretty much sure that DM is trolling - though I rather think for amusement value to show up the "right on PC identity politics lefties" rather than out of any Swiftian desire for acute political satire. I don't think DM is on the side of feminism, that's for sure.

I do wonder how being a woman has affected DM's life. What impact has it had day to day? How does he live his life differently? Does he get upset if he is misgendered? What discrimination does he face?

DM must be some kind of performance artist, I find it impossible to believe this could be serious.

Yes, we should see how Danielle feels about FGM, abortion rights, and the equal pay debate. As a female 'activist', I'm sure she has strong opinions on these issues.

Yes, we should see how Danielle feels about FGM, abortion rights, and the equal pay debate. As a female 'activist', I'm sure she has strong opinions on these issues.

Absolutely. I would guess that FGM is a cissexist phrase that literally erases transpeople, reproduction rights for transwomen are far more important than abortion rights for people with uteri, and the equal pay debate is the price we pay for our cis privilege.

DM is an atheist activist, which I find interesting. They reject religion as nonsense (I don't know why, but I think most atheists point to the lack of proof and the need to make a big mental jump to accept religious teachings), but apparently accept the TRA narrative on the feelz...

Olennas That's why I think it must be a parody - the cognitive dissonance otherwise would be overwhelming.

Maybe he just likes being 'controversial' - which to some extent overt atheism is in the US?

I'm starting to lean towards the "parody" explanation. If only for the sake of my sanity.

I'm favouring the 'oddball SJW with glaring lack of self awareness and irony' explanation. Not catchy, but it does what it says on the tin.

Yeah, atheist is probably more the equivalent of "I'm a free-thinker" virtue signalling marker in the US. Here, everyone's rather more meh about the whole religion debate.

I saw on Twitter that Muscato started her hormone therapy today. So I guess it wasn't a wind-up?

Oh well, good luck to her.

Yeah, atheist is probably more the equivalent of "I'm a free-thinker" virtue signalling marker in the US. Here, everyone's rather more meh about the whole religion debate.

I have always considered atheist activists a bit weird. Making a religion out of having no religion seems nonsensical. And I don't think them believing the trans narrative of "girl brain" is so strange - atheism, to some, just seems to be a religion that suits them better than any other.

They do not just not believe in a god, they passionately believe that there is no god. Which one might think is the same, but one who just doesn't believe usually doesn't tend to feel a need to preach that lack of belief to others.

I think that many atheists actually believe that religion is dangerous and that belief in god is insanity (or at least belief in any of the major monotheistic religions idea of god).

So i wouldn't see it as "Making a religion out of having no religion" it's more that they are challenging dangerous and (in their eyes) plainly stupid thinking.

Disagree - some undoubtedly do come from a psychological place remarkably similar to religion. One of the conversations I've had with more extreme atheist friends when sightseeing round a strange city, for instance, goes - "how about having a look at the Cathedral? One of the great pieces of architecture of such and such periods, and has paintings by X, Y and Z?" The horror with which this suggestion is met suggests a visceral fear that they might be contaminated by religious beliefs, and in fact always comes across as very akin to ritual beliefs about clean/unclean spaces and activites in religions!

Really, I don't understand why the trans thing has become such a fixation. People on the left and the right have got their knickers in a twist about an issue that really should not be a priority.

My position is that people who do identify as being of a different sex to the one they were biologically born as should not be victimised or discriminated against, obviously; and it really is no big deal what they term themselves as. Any attempt to stop them from doing so is a bit fascist. Furthermore, all the debates concerning what makes a man a man and a woman a woman will just roll on interminably without any possibility of resolution. They make for some very interesting discussions about the nature of gender identity, but that's it.

That said, there are all sorts of nonsensical demands made by trans people concerning which pronouns should be applied to them and access to women's changing facilities; and the no-platforming of Bindel and others is clearly unjustified.

But even then, why is this issue such a priority? How many people attend, or are directly affected by Oxford Union debates? How many people are even aware of their existence?

It seems like the middle-class, liberal left has disappeared up its own backside, consumed with these completely unresolvable, interminable identity politics debates while the world goes to hell.

Mostly

OK - well that person just sounds plain weird to me, I wouldn't have thought such a position is common though.

qwerty, unfortunately it is an important issue because trans women are demanding access to women's spaces and their demands are being listened to and met. This represents a serious threat to women's safety if any male can claim transgender status and enter spaces designated for women.

It is also an issue as trans women are taking awards that are intended for women - for example there has been a rise in the number of transwomen entering women's sport and easily beating women because they are biologically male and therefore stronger and faster.

No one wants to victimise them but we do want them to stop taking our rights in the advancement of their own.

Agree Mostly, all the atheist activists I've ever come across have acted and spoken in ways that make them indistinguishable from any other religious zealot.

Plus there is the transing of minors and the erasure of lesbians and homosexuals. These are a pretty big deal. Real serious harm is being done to real people and more and more of them are children.

Qwerty, why do you constantly try to derail threads with your own bizarre agenda? You spend a lot of time on this board, so you ought to know by now that the trans issue is hugely important, for reasons that are reiterated almost constantly here.

Cao - I think you have answered your own question in your first sentence. The derail is the why.

Fixation?

"calling yourself 'Danielle' and claiming to be a woman does not make you in any way a woman."

It's a great litmus test to expose the idiocy of the whole "Transwomen are women" thing, though. I love it:

So if a bearded man calling himself "Danielle" doesn't make him a woman, would putting on a dress and makeup make him a woman?

Ask the question to TAs and watch the blinds drop from their eyes.

Women are concerned that a very few men are having a very powerful effect and are pushing an agenda where ANY man is able to access women and girls on their say so.

A man doesn't see it as important.

Go figure.

a very few men are having a very powerful effect

I disagree. I think 99% of the population are unaware of any effect at all.

I'm sure there are political issues with trans culture, but it just seems odd that it's receiving the level of focus it does when other arguably far more important issues (the sex trafficking of Syrian refugees and children for example) are barely mentioned.