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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Oxford schoolgirl abduction didn't happen, police suddenly announced

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Yunitsa · 11/11/2016 15:30

Help, fellow feminists...

I've written a bit on other threads about my daughter (same age) being hugely upset about this abduction and rape. She was cycling along the same street at the same time as it was meant to have happened. As a direct result I've had to go back to giving her lifts to and from school.

This is a name change because it was all just getting a bit close to home/potentially outing.

I've had texts from her already this afternoon... news of this press release must have broken at school. She's confused. The girl was raped but not abducted? Why did she say she was abducted? Is she in trouble? Have the police made a mistake?
And then just now:
Now the police won't believe the next girl who is abducted. Is that right?

And this is before she's seen any of the vitriol that has already begun on social media... schoolgirls should never be believed, apparently; it wasn't rape either, more than likely, she just changed her mind after a threesome. Envy - vomit.

Anyone got any words of wisdom? I have to pick her up shortly and I have no idea what to say. I'm really shaken by this. Though also, of course, kind of glad that the abduction didn't take place and that my daughter might start to feel safe to travel alone again.

link here

Frustratingly the press release on TVP's website is now showing as having an orator and not loading. (It was working an hour ago.) Like more confusion is needed here. Hmm

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BurnTheBlackSuit · 11/11/2016 17:02

Saracen's post is really good advice

PikachuSayBoo · 11/11/2016 17:03

Poor girl. Whatever happened it sounds like she went through an ordeal she didn't want to happen. And yes, if she's 14 it's rape.

overthehillandroundthemountain · 11/11/2016 17:08

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Yunitsa · 11/11/2016 17:27

I agree that some of the reporting is irresponsible.

Thankfully the Thames Valley Police statement is loading again. I wish I'd screen shorted it earlier as I feel like the wording has changed since earlier. But I can't put my finger on what the change is, so I may be wrong.

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Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:30

I read this story today too. They said that they're not sure if the allegations are true right now but have confirmed that no abduction took place.

It's possible that the story is made up.

AyeAmarok · 11/11/2016 17:31

If I remember correctly, the first news reports did allude to their being some sort of "hug" in the street that she was then bungled into a car, I think?

So it may be that they no longer consider it to have been an abduction.

But there is still a 14 year old girl who has been raped, which is the more traumatic bit of the incident anyway Sad

Yunitsa · 11/11/2016 17:31

Saracen, your post is helpful, thank you.

I've also pointed out to my daughter that people make completely false (not that this is), confused or incorrect statements to the police about all sorts of things. The level of females, or children - as in this case - who do so about sexual crimes is significantly less, according to the stats I've come across, than for most crimes.

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IAmAmy · 11/11/2016 17:31

They've said no such thing Pickled0nions. They've said they established an abduction didn't take place and they're now investigating the rape only. There will I would have thought be evidence a rape took place. That sort of comment is pretty unpleasant in my opinion.

overthehillandroundthemountain · 11/11/2016 17:34

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Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:34

If you look at BBC News it says that the they are still looking into the the rape allegations but that the abduction did not happen.

IAmAmy · 11/11/2016 17:35

They've said exactly what I said and nothing which would imply what you said.

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:36

I didn't say that the rape did not happen. Please read what I wrote again. They have said they are looking into the allegations but that the abduction did not take place.
That is what I'm reading right now IAmAmy

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:37

IAmAmy What you said, and what I've said, are similar. I don't know what your issue is.

IAmAmy · 11/11/2016 17:38

My issue is "it's possible that the story was made up".

BertrandRussell · 11/11/2016 17:43

They will know whether or not she was raped. If they are still persuing the issue, then she was raped.

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:45

Because it's POSSIBLE IAmAmy

AVirginLitTheCandle · 11/11/2016 17:47

They aren't saying the rape didn't take place. They're saying the abduction didn't take place.

FFS why can't people read?

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:47

Yep that's what I put.

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:48
Hmm
BertrandRussell · 11/11/2016 17:48

It's not possible, pickkledonions because they will know whether she was taped or not.

AVirginLitTheCandle · 11/11/2016 17:48

She was examined by a police doctor after the incident. There would have been evidence that a rape took place.

They've said they're not treating it as an abduction. That doesn't mean a rape didn't take place.

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:50

So why have they not confirmed it?
Why does it say they are still looking into rape allegations.

I'm not saying it didn't happen, although so far everyone is assuming I am even though I never wrote that. I am saying that from what I am reading, the way I perceive it, is that they're still looking into it, they haven't confirmed anything.

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:51

Taped?

IAmAmy · 11/11/2016 17:51

Thank you all who pointed it out. There will have been a full examination and it is NOT possible a rape didn't take place. The girl needs full support.

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:53

Shit I forgot you can't have your own opinion on here.