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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What do feminist really want?

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Nrdad1 · 21/10/2016 22:00

Hi I'm just a man how is wondering what feminists really want?

What are you fighting for or against in this day and age?

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MostlyHet · 22/10/2016 09:03

Let me try a football analogy (you may not be a footie fan, I am).

You rock up on this forum, with a user name "nrdad" (yup, I worked out with your first post that that was shorthand for "non-resident dad") and demand that we justify feminism.

That's like walking into a pub across the road from White Hart Lane wearing a Milwall shirt and saying "so, justify Spurs' current form to me".

Then you tell us that men who've beaten up their ex should get custody of the children...

That's the moment at which you escalate things by shouting antisemitic abuse in a pub full of Spurs fans.

We know who you are, what you are, what you're doing - we've seen it all before. A million times.

JenLindleyShitMom · 22/10/2016 09:12

It's cute that every man who tries this thinks he's the first.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 22/10/2016 09:13

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NameChange30 · 22/10/2016 09:16

Oh dear.

Clearly I picked a good moment to go to bed. The thread quickly turned from amusing to annoying.

I think it might be time to delete it now. MNHQ, pretty please?

NameChange30 · 22/10/2016 09:18

It was fun when we were taking the piss, because much less fun when people started actually engaging with the troll's "arguments".

NameChange30 · 22/10/2016 09:19

became much less fun

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 22/10/2016 09:20

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thatstoast · 22/10/2016 09:33

I just can't do these types of threads in the morning. Evening is best really.

Nrdad1 · 22/10/2016 09:38

I never said the man should get custody if he hits a woman I asked a question. What my point was going to be was that. If a man hits a woman he is removed for the child's life but if it is a woman who hits a man then the woman still gets custody of the child most the time. This isn't made up that is from personal experience of me and friends. It took along time of fighting for me to have 50/50. When my ex finally realised that she was being unreasonable. Should I have had to fight to be an equal part of his life? No

I never asked you to justify feminism I ask what point you feel need to change for true equality. If you didn't want to answer then you didn't need to but everyone felt the need to be sexist and sarcastic. but I can bet not a single one of you have ever said that a woman should get the same treatment from the justice system as a man does or in custody hearing or support for crisis? There are so many places a woman has better treatment then a man. It appears that you only want equality when it benefit you. That is not true equality that is wanting to be superior and privileged.

How can you ask to be taken seriously if when asked what points need to change. You just give the person asking shit? I'm sorry but it not logical.

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NameChange30 · 22/10/2016 09:39

Blah blah blah

MostlyHet · 22/10/2016 09:44

You know, I've taught logic. I've taught students soundness and completeness theorems for 1st order logic. I've taught them Goedel's incompleteness theorem for 2nd order logic.

When I see a man like our OP use the phrase "you're not being logical" what I hear in this context is "women, shut up. I am a man and therefore only my voice should be listened to." It has nothing to do with logic. It has everything to do with what the man believes the power structures in the world should be like.

HillaryFTW · 22/10/2016 09:48

"You know, I've taught logic. I've taught students soundness and completeness theorems for 1st order logic. I've taught them Goedel's incompleteness theorem for 2nd order logic."

NameChange30 · 22/10/2016 09:49

I knew it. ALL FEMINISTS ARE LESBIANS.

Nrdad1 · 22/10/2016 09:50

I believe that both sexes,ethnicity and religion should be completely equal. I'm not a woman hater. I am a man yes. So I have never had to deal with the sexist action a woman has to deal with. So what is wrong with asking what needs to change? It is the only way to find out or would you prefer I just assumed I knew what it's like and what needs to change

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HillaryFTW · 22/10/2016 09:51
Nrdad1 · 22/10/2016 09:52

I never mentioned anything about lesbians.

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Nrdad1 · 22/10/2016 09:53

So you have a sexist and prodigies view of men but that's ok

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 22/10/2016 09:53

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Nrdad1 · 22/10/2016 09:53

Prejudice

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Nrdad1 · 22/10/2016 09:54

So buffy because there's other writings about it. It mean that it no longer needs to be discussed

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thatstoast · 22/10/2016 09:57

Buffy doesn't do the talky talky stuff, she's more stabby stabby. Although, I may be confusing her with someone else.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 22/10/2016 09:58

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Nrdad1 · 22/10/2016 09:58

I'm done with this no one can have a reasonable discussion about what truly matters here. You would rather call me sexist and name call then have a reasonable valid conversation about what needs to change. Is that really how you believe you will get things to change

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NameChange30 · 22/10/2016 09:59

toast LOL

I'm not in the mood for broken records this morning. I wish the OP would just fucking fuck off.

There you go, angry feminist. Job done.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 22/10/2016 10:02

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