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What do feminist really want?

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Nrdad1 · 21/10/2016 22:00

Hi I'm just a man how is wondering what feminists really want?

What are you fighting for or against in this day and age?

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BeMorePanda · 22/10/2016 00:34

they split does the child go with the man?

Until not that long ago a woman had no rights to her children, to even see them in the event of a relationship brreakdown. Children were men's property.

These days the courts believe the primary carer having custody of the children is in their best interests. That means the parent who looks after them the most.

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Nrdad1 · 22/10/2016 00:35

Well if you don't say what you want how do you expect it to change? Or will someone else just do all the talking for you?

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MistressMerryWeather · 22/10/2016 00:35

Nrdad, when I first became interested in feminism I too thought it was about 'equality for all' both men and women - I was pretty shocked that it wasn't as a matter of fact

What I have since found out is that feminism is simply about the rights of women and you know what? That's OK.

It's OK for there to be a movement that focuses solely one women.

That doesn't mean we don't care about men - We all have sons/husbands/fathers/brothers. Individually we would fight tooth and nail to make their lives better but as a movement - Well, it doesn't work like that.

Would you ask members of the LGBT movement to fight for your rights as a straight man? (an assumption, of course)

DoYouRememberJustinBobby · 22/10/2016 00:35

Nrdad could we have a bullet point list of what your issues are in a society so unequal to men?
Nice and neat please, there's a good chap.

Terrifiedandregretful · 22/10/2016 00:35

I very much doubt you'd ever get a feminist telling you to 'man up' OP. I think you're fighting the wrong people.

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Nrdad1 · 22/10/2016 00:36

Well alot of men take an equal amount of time to take care of their children or does being a woman mean your the primary care giver?

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twopointfourfamily · 22/10/2016 00:36

OP I think you are already pissed off at your own perception of feminism and looking for an outlet.

BeMorePanda · 22/10/2016 00:36

Manly Rant Alert
Many Rhinos Acting
Mostly Rank Advice

IceBeing · 22/10/2016 00:38

Oh I am sure feminists will and do talk about what they want, to people who have bothered to get a grasp of the basics up front, or, who are in a position to actually do something about it.

unfortunately, you approach here hasn't really convinced anyone you fall into either of those two categories.

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 22/10/2016 00:38

I have worked op out

If we tell him what we want he will sort it for us

Wonder where he gets this idea that we are hanging around waiting to be saved or waiting to be hit on or here to answer when a man requires us too

ErrolTheDragon · 22/10/2016 00:38

We do say what we want, but not necessarily on friday night threads at the behest of a random bloke who's wandered in.

IceBeing · 22/10/2016 00:39

My DH is primary care giver...is that wrong op?

DoYouRememberJustinBobby · 22/10/2016 00:39

If you can sort out what we want, could you start with the chocolate? And maybe carb free cheese and onion crisps.

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Nrdad1 · 22/10/2016 00:39

Ok mistress thank you have cleared that up for me abit. That's the kind of response I was hoping for with this thread. Not just to be jumped on for being curious

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IceBeing · 22/10/2016 00:39

well I already posted my wish list...and yet sexist adverts still abound.

I wonder if his magic wand isn't working tonight....

MistressMerryWeather · 22/10/2016 00:40

My DH is primary care giver also.

BeMorePanda · 22/10/2016 00:41

Yeah - you're not curious.

And what I want is for you to Fuck off out of our feminist space OP.

Thank so much for asking.

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Nrdad1 · 22/10/2016 00:42

No icebeing I don't think that's wrong in the slightest

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Nrdad1 · 22/10/2016 00:45

I really did come on here just being curious and whiting to have a half decent discussing but none of yous apart from a few were actually willing to do that and started to "take the cunt" straight away. How can you expect to be listened to if that's how your react when asked what it is you want

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twopointfourfamily · 22/10/2016 00:45

Ice being. Adverts Have come a long way. You don't have to go back far to see some horrifically sexist attitudes in advertising.

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Nrdad1 · 22/10/2016 00:46

Half decent discussion

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BeMorePanda · 22/10/2016 00:49

You aren't listening to us either.

Here is a history of child custody. Men "owned" children and mothers had no right to even see them for many many centuries. The presumption that maternal care was best for children has only been around for decades.

Now thanks to FEMINISM pushing for equality, The courts look to award custody to the primary carer. Generally speaking.

You are welcome.

futureofchildren.org/publications/journals/article/index.xml?journalid=63&articleid=414&sectionid=2825

KnottyPineHell · 22/10/2016 00:49

Your half of the discussion was lacking somewhat.

TwentyCups · 22/10/2016 00:50

Maybe you two should PM about how there is no need for feminism?

ErrolTheDragon · 22/10/2016 00:50

If you genuinely wanted a decent discussion you should have started with a half decent OP and really not at 10pm on a friday.