woman loses residency of son she was raising as daughter

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3859618/You-caused-son-great-harm-insisting-raising-girl-Boy-seven-sent-live-father-mother-raised-daughter.html

hmmm. ok so its daily mail reporting but I am conflicted
perhaps good if child was being pushed into something he wasnt
but wtf with the boringly stereotypical insistance on the type of toys played with

Have just read on the Transgender Trend website of the conference that Mermaids have just held, and of them kicking off anyone that might challenge them from the attendance list.

www.transgendertrend.com/transgender-diagnosis-and-treatment-of-kids-is-not-up-for-debate/

When I look at the eventbrite page for the event, I see it's been paid for by Lloyds Banking Group. Who presumably also have swallowed hook line and sinker the idea that these chartalans are experts of some sort.

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/new-perspectives-on-healthcare-provision-for-transgender-youth-tickets-27439406002?utm_campaign=reminder_attendees_48hour_email&utm_medium=email&utm_source=eb_email&utm_term=eventname

That's a really interesting article, Annie.

Mermaids is a disgrace. If either of my kids' schools gets them in I will be kicking up the most almighty stink.

That FB post from Mermaids didn’t actually say very much. No recognition that any child needs a lot more time and freedom to explore their identity than being labelled as trans when in pre-school.

It’s good that the judge has questioned the current orthodoxy, and emphasised the need for professionals to not fall into that trap.

It is very rare for a young child to believe that their gender is different from their sex; and of course they need support, especially in trying to understand why they believe that to be the case. This judgement is a useful reminder to the professionals that they need to balance acceptance and exploration. Child psychology, as a field, is probably one of the most challenging fields to work in. Young children can have a very wide vocabulary, but don’t necessarily have the nuances to even explain things to themselves, let alone other people. (Which also goes for many adults as well.)

If this young boy is trans, he will transition later. All the evidence, especially from the judge who actually heard both parents in the court, shows that the father will support his child.

Blimey Annie, that article is properly scary.

DH signed the legal review petition last night. Still only at 500ish aparently, yet the Mermaids one was in the thousands. He didn't feel able to share it in social media either.

Did anyone catch the Richard O'Brien fuss? DH caught it on Facebook, RO'B basically said he agreed with Germaine Greer and was being slated for it. I think the link went to the Pink News website. It didn't mention this case so perhaps the timing was coincidental though.

All the evidence, especially from the judge who actually heard both parents in the court, shows that the father will support his child.

This is one of the (many) things that concern me in the wider reaction from the trans community - the assertion that the father doesn't recognise the child's right to explore gender and that J is being forced to live as a boy against his wishes. It's manifestly unfair - the court judgement makes clear the father is willing to support J in any way he can.
The shouts of "transphobic" to anyone who doesn't bow down to the view that J is a girl is extraordinary.

I just checked the link, it was a 2013 article - must be coincidence someone on DH's Facebook dragged it up again this week, I guess.

The thing that strikes me about the whole thing is that the trans part is simply a small aspect of the entire situation. The mother was obstructing contact, there were a number of safeguarding issues raised, apart from the transition itself, and her refusal to work with the court to facilitate contact with the father.

For me, reading the judgment itself, the trans issue was a small part of the whole picture, and certainly not the main driver for the change in residency.

Julie Bindle has written for the mail

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3865632/I-m-grateful-grew-children-don-t-fit-stereotypes-assumed-transgender-Feminist-activist-Julie-Bindel-danger-playing-gender-politics-young-lives.html

...and Julie Bindle, rather than being the subject of one of their stories, is writing her 1st article for them.

I was kind of banking on the mail following up. During the CB/kids company thing, they were one of the few willing to go all "investigative journalist" on it.

Given the some of the content of Julie's article, if the Mail decided to follow through and poke around ...I'd expect them to be focusing their interest on Mermaids, and any other trans expert they can earth up that was involved with the child prior to removal. They can't write much about the actual case, because of restrictions. But they can use it as a hook, and then take the story in another direction where they have much more of a free rein.

Yes, I don't suppose JB would have the Mail as her first choice but obviously the Graun arent going to publish such a thing. Times probably would have.

She's written for the Mail plenty of times before, as have other feminist writers - despite their overall editorial view of women they do cover women's issues quite a bit.

What with the judge's decision, the story about the 14 year old and Julie Bindel's article we've seen a bit of sense over the past few days. It's cheering.

Some of the comments on digital media sources have been interesting, especially those on generally pro-trans sites where people have been talking about how liking 'boys' toys' does not maketh one a boy ... yet these same sites do seem to think this if such play maketh one 'the opposite gender'.

I feel sorry for the 14 year old. She's stuck between a rock and a hard place whichever way you look at it.

Sorry, can I ask what the story about the 14 year old is that is being referred to. I've missed that entirely.

It's the DM again, sorry!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3863880/Christian-parents-girl-14-wants-change-gender-forced-legal-action-against-local-council-backs-efforts-against-wishes.html

Oh sorry- can see it's referred to in the JB article. Apologies- I'm a sleep deprived zombie at the moment due to a 5 month old who has decided he likes an all night party.

Cross post- thank you!

She's written for the Mail plenty of times

Ah I didn't know that. I clicked on her byline (Julie Bindle writing for the mail... or something like that) and only today's article was on the list.

It was a good and balanced article. You sometimes never know with Julie.

One of my sons of a similar age repeatedly talks about not liking the sensation he gets in his penis when it "flies around" eg when he's on a swing, or a roller coaster or going over a hump in the road. He says it feels weird. He often does a bit of rearranging (as do many adult men I know). I bought him tight fitting pants rather than boxers which has helped. I don't like the sensation of my ample breasts in freefall when running so I wear sturdy sports bras. None of this screams Gender Identity Disorder to me. It's simply part of the human condition to have uncomfortable bits of your body in certain situations!

That's not GID at all. It's far more complicated than not liking things on your body sometimes.

I know. That's my point - that's the only thing that the poor little boy said in this case about being a boy. The mother tried to use it as evidence of him being TG which is obviously bollocks, pardon the expression!