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The Green Party pick their side...

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BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 17/09/2016 16:48

Today we have had mass blocking of feminists by @greenpartywomen and now the spokesperson for LGBTQIAetc has declared war...

On top of the pro-sex work, pro-genderism (but contradictory, anti-pinkbrain) crap we have seen already.

How bloody frustrating. 🙄

The Green Party pick their side...
The Green Party pick their side...
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BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 17/09/2016 16:50

Mass blocking...

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BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 17/09/2016 16:52

Oh I forgot the bloody "non-man" bullshit.

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HumphreyCobblers · 17/09/2016 16:57

The Green Party are not coming out well at all atm. The non-man thing was beyond belief. Sad

HumphreyCobblers · 17/09/2016 16:59

I am finding the whole pink brain thing hilarious actually. No one seems to have realised it was a justification for being trans....if people HAD realised it they would possibly be bending over backwards to justify it. But the fact that it is basically rubbish is allowed to be stated because the trans thing has slipped under the net.

Sameoldiggi · 17/09/2016 17:11

I had never heard of this block bot thing - this is truly horrendous

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BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 17/09/2016 17:16

I was a member, I persevered through the non-man crap and tried to argue against it from inside.
I have given up though now and cancelled my membership.

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WinchesterWoman · 17/09/2016 17:28

So that's the Green Party and the WEP. And Maria Miller though how much that represents the Tories I don't know. Wonder how Corbyn will come out? Definitely asking him on Mumsnet.

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BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 17/09/2016 17:33

He's been asked one or two times on the web chat thread... Grin

Whether an answer will be forthcoming or not.....?

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SpeakNoWords · 17/09/2016 17:34

No mainstream political party is going to go against the current trans orthodoxy, it seems. No idea who I'll vote for at the next election.

WinchesterWoman · 17/09/2016 17:40

Where's the web chat thread? I couldn't see it

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ITCouldBeWorse · 17/09/2016 17:48

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WinchesterWoman · 17/09/2016 18:00

Thank you, I asked my question. What a white knuckle ride for the response.

Or will it be the entirely predictable 'the labour party supports equality for all'

Sameoldiggi · 17/09/2016 21:14

The Green spokesperson is transgender, yes?

ArcheryAnnie · 18/09/2016 00:07

The Green Party - who I used to think were progressive - jumped the shark on women's issues a while back. It's full of the sort of wanky men who will lecture you at tedious length on how actually, they are a better feminist than you.

ArcheryAnnie · 18/09/2016 00:10

Oh, and since they are the absolute kings of appropriation, it's no surprise that they tried to claim the science museum looking again at the stupid pink brains thing was a triumph of Green Party activism, when it was really a victory precipitated by by the sort of RadFems on twitter they absolutely hate.

0phelia · 18/09/2016 07:39

The Green party are doing good work in the area of abortion.

I understand they are attempting to change the law, at the moment (UK) abortion is still illegal unless you go via a registered doctor so eg you can't buy your own abortion pills over the Internet women have gone to jail for this.

(Personally I actually think this law keeps women safe but agree prison is pretty OTT).

Anyway I kid you not they have removed the words "Women" and "Woman" from their entire document on this subject and replaced it with "person" and "people" and I think you know why...

WinchesterWoman · 18/09/2016 08:44

'pregnant people' how stupid

although I note on their maternity info they still use 'women'

nobody sub-edited that part yet I guess

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 18/09/2016 08:50

I think we know how Corbyn is going to come out tbh. He has never shown much support for women up to now.

PoisonWitch · 18/09/2016 09:24

Ffs. We are truly fucked if not one single political party will support us. Not even the women's equality party.

WinchesterWoman · 18/09/2016 09:34

I don't have much hope in the US either. Hillary won't change things on the transgender front, she'll probably make things worse. Donald Trump's VP wants to 'consign Roe vs Wade to the dustbin'. Then over here, Angela Merkel and Juncker don't care about assaults on women by men who've grown up in a misogynistic culture. Has anyone got anything positive to make me feel better?

ArcheryAnnie · 18/09/2016 09:34

I feel the same, PoisonWitch.

I can't feel enthusiastic about any party as a whole, but my own MP has been, well, I wouldn't go so far as to say supportive, but at least willing to listen and not-dismissive when I've written to him about, eg, male-bodied people who have committed violent crimes going into women's prisons, so I will just plug on with him and hope for the best.

WinchesterWoman · 18/09/2016 09:36

We need someone at the BBC or Sky, some presenter who isn't afraid to challenge what's happening. Wonder if anyone would be brave enough to speak out.

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BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 18/09/2016 09:47

The whole world is going backwards. Think I might go and live on an uninhabited island.

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ISaySteadyOn · 18/09/2016 10:04

Poisonwitch, I agree. Also find it esp frustrating as I am newly naturalised (got citizenship in April) and registered to vote. But how can I vote for any party? I don't think there is a single one that is pro women with two x chromosomes. Should we all start our own?