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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

First female soldier.

179 replies

Thecatsmum · 17/09/2016 08:10

Only they've not had any surgery and have just started hormone treatment therefore they are a man!

How can they possibly be feted as the first female soldier?

The world truly has gone mad.

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ftw · 17/09/2016 11:11

Holy shit. I've just read the BBC article. I'm all but speechless.

If the army just lets a few more trans women transition there'll be no need to recruit inferior female women.

She is not the first woman on the front line.

We're being erased.

I AM STILL SPARTACUS.

shins · 17/09/2016 11:17

www.thesun.co.uk/news/1799205/sex-change-soldier-is-britains-first-female-to-fight-on-front-line-after-being-born-a-boy/

At least The Sun shows photos so we can see how fucking ludicrous it is. The Guardian doesn't. How dare they say this is the first woman in the frontline? It's a bloke with earrings ffs

Thecatsmum · 17/09/2016 11:17

The headlines referring to sex change soldier are also boiling my blood.

You can't change sex and Chloe is only 2 weeks into hormone treatment therefore as I said in my original post they are a man.

The reality is the army is allowing a male serving soldier to dress in clothes perceived to be womans clothes, take drugs which are not for medicinal use and use a female name. That's perfectly acceptable but still doesn't make them a female.

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MrsBruceBogtrotter · 17/09/2016 11:17

This man is not an ally of women - he is an appropriative fetishist, no more, no less.

AlphaNumericalSequence · 17/09/2016 11:20

I agree that some of the rporting has been a bit daft. I think journos just love the grabbiness of the story, with its 'man bites dog' appearence of interesting reversals.

Like other posters I wish Chloe well wholeheartedly, but I will be more impressed by the first non-trans woman who makes it into a frontline unit.

ftw · 17/09/2016 11:22

100% of women soldiers in combat roles have dicks.

It'll be a shock to them when they find out Inferior Women have to deal with periods and such.

ftw · 17/09/2016 11:23

And how did Chloe manage to 'live as a woman' whilst doing a job closed to women?

Shiningexample · 17/09/2016 11:25

It's just bollocks isn't it😒

MangoMoon · 17/09/2016 11:37

I've just seen this and came straight onto MN.

Am fucking gobsmacked.

No hormones, still got a penis - only difference is a pair of earrings & long nails.

Fuck my fucking life.

Snowshimmer · 17/09/2016 11:39

Am I allowed to say that he just looks like an ordinary bloke. He can hardly be the first to wear a small earring in the military.

Here are some actual women fighting on the front line.

evelynj · 17/09/2016 11:40

Agree with pps, it's not on. The media have a lot to answer for, grrr. I'm Spartacus!

HairyLittlePoet · 17/09/2016 11:44

Women! Equality is now yours for the taking! See how the highest paid US woman CEO, the first British woman soldier on the front line, the youngest ever British High Court Master Judge is a woman! What are you complaining about, clearly if they can achieve such greatness the rest of you have no excuse. Unless of course you are naturally just inferior and these women are exceptional examples of what a woman should be (whilst most aren't, mores the pity).

The fact that these uber-women have penises and testicles has NOTHING to do with it. How very dare you be so rude about your sisters who represent you.

fldsmdfr · 17/09/2016 11:54

Nobody - NOBODY - believes this person is a woman. Nobody.

They are allowed on to the frontline because they are getting a pat on the head and the army gets a progressive trophy to shine, but mostly because EVERYBODY knows this person is still a man.

FFS.

Shiningexample · 17/09/2016 11:54

Life as a man clearly no longer looks like such a good deal to some men, so they decide to call themselves women and they are fast tracked...feted and lauded for their achievements as women

fldsmdfr · 17/09/2016 11:56

The amount of doublethink and brainwashing that has had to happen for that article to be written and published and accepted is fucking scary.

QueenLaBeefah · 17/09/2016 12:02

First woman on the front line.

First female soldier.
Ifitquackslikeaduck · 17/09/2016 12:03

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 17/09/2016 12:54

Agree Fld.
Nobody believes it. It is happening because it is in the interests of a lot of people - army hierarchy, anyone in the army who doesn't want too many actual women around, the transwoman himself.
Funnily enough, they're all male.

CharlieSierra · 17/09/2016 13:17

Hairy I want a like button! Star

TwoLeftSocks · 17/09/2016 13:27

I want to know what their headline will be when biological women are admitted into those various regiments for the first time.

ffon · 17/09/2016 13:33

I am Spartacus.
The sex of the first transwoman on the front line is male.

NNChangeAgain · 17/09/2016 13:34

socks there won't be a headline. That ship has sailed.

As far as society is concerned, that has already been achieved.

Achieving it without male privilege isn't newsworthy.

MangoMoon · 17/09/2016 13:34

Well there won't be one Two.

It will be old news - s'aleady been achieved by Chloe apparently.

Atenco · 17/09/2016 13:34

Now that men can represent us, overnight we are gaining a lot of ground, aren't we?

MangoMoon · 17/09/2016 13:34

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