Ched Evans wins appeal

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Sorry I can't link but it's on the BBC site.

Where, in that article, does it say she alleged she was raped?

pubes, seriously - get your facts right! Idiot.

If he is found not guilty on retrial can he claim compensation?

The facts will be clarified in the retrial, Milzilla.

Appeal judges to not quash guilty verdicts lightly. I think I read that there is a 4% chance of overturning guilty convictions.

There will be some interesting new perspectives that hopefully will enlighten us all.

I stand by my convictions that women who willingly make false allegations and provide false evidence in court, for the purposes of attempting to convict rape defendants, ought to be subject to the same punishments.

If the woman is proved to have been lying under oath in the retrial, I'd advocate it here too.

I stand by my convictions that women who willingly make false allegations and provide false evidence in court, for the purposes of attempting to convict rape defendants, ought to be subject to the same punishments.

What part of she never made an allegation do you not get?

Of course women who male false accusations should be punished. However you need to prove they made it up first.

That is irrelevant to this case however because ( for the 100000000th time) she has never made any allegations.

How are false accusations of rape relevant to this case? There were no allegations made. You seem confused. Are you sure you arent mixing up the details of another case with this one?

What part of lying in court do you guys not get?

What did she lie in court about?

She lied in court? Where did you read that?

"Fresh evidence" DURRRRR

Do you all live together on the planet zog?

Do you think the appeal judge overturned the Chef Evans decision for a good laugh? Or out of boredom perhaps?

Serious question.

What do you think the retrial is about?

Crucial parts of the evidence can now be contradicted.

Given that the victim's lack of capacity to give consent was the basis for the rape charges, the veracity of that narrative is going to be severely questioned.

I hope you all will be mature enough to apologise to Ched when he is declared innocent.

Apologise for what?

Why are you so far up his hole? Are you his mum/girlfriend?

grey disappears for 5 years, suddenly comes back and starts posting a load of bollocks.

Maybe they know Chedster like an old room mate?

Given that the victim's lack of capacity to give consent was the basis for the rape charges,

Nope, try again.

Pubes is clearly one of the Massey clan or wants to be. Pubes, dfod.

Can you at least admit that CE is a disgusting, amoral predator who treated the victim appallingly?

Read the court transcript then come back and comment once you're a little more 'enlightened'.

Natasha, that u hun?

You don't seem to have grasped that she never accused him, he was convicted by his own testimony. Do you know what that means? Have you even read the court document? It was the police who interviewed him and charged him with rape. I guess you'll want them serving 30 months too?

"What do you think the retrial is about?"

The three points of new evidence, referred to as such in the appeal court's conclusions.

"Crucial parts of the evidence can now be contradicted"

Nobody has said that. The nature of the new new evidence has not been made public (for good reasons) and so nobody knows whether it tends to contradict or whether it is additional in other areas.

I find it hard to imagine what the evidence might be, given that CE's own words described non-consensual sex with a stranger (ie rape) but the appeal court didn't have to imagine, they actually heard it. They didn't say the original verdict was wrong, they said it needed to be quashed. But they did not clear the defendant (as they have done in other cases, where people have been completely acquitted and cleared at appeal). He remains the defendant and is awaiting trial, when the new evidence will be tested alongside all the evidence already heard.

Would the fact that initially Ched Evans encouraged his fans to hound the woman and release her name on social media so that she had to move and change identities several times be taken into account as something against him? And the fact it took him months/years to show any remorse? That is a genuine question, would anything like that be taken into account?

"Would the fact that initially Ched Evans encouraged his fans to hound the woman and release her name on social media so that she had to move and change identities several times be taken into account as something against him? And the fact it took him months/years to show any remorse? That is a genuine question, would anything like that be taken into account?"

I doubt it. The case all appears to turn on whether on the night in question he had consent, or a reasonable belief in consent; and that is not related to the previous or subsequent activities of those present in the room.

I still cannot be over the fact Natasha Masseys father is paying for all of this. At the very least - his daughter is wasting the best years of her life and now has a child with s disgusting cheat... At the very least.

No self respect in that family at all.

I was discussing this with my son who said even if he is found not guilty he'll still be a scumbag whose career was in decline before this happened.

That's a shame Viking.

newtoad could you link to where it says it was the police who decided to prosecute? Not saying I don't believe you, just that I can't find where it says that.

Read the court transcript then come back and comment once you're a little more 'enlightened'.

Is there one available to the public. If so, please provide a link. Thanks.

newtoad could you link to where it says it was the police who decided to prosecute? Not saying I don't believe you, just that I can't find where it says that

It is always the police who decide if a case should be passed to the Crown who then has the decision to take it to court.

The victim did not report a rape - she reported a missing handbag and the fact she had no idea what had happened. The police pieced together the events from what they were told by Evans, the hotel staff and others.

Would the fact that initially Ched Evans encouraged his fans to hound the woman and release her name on social media so that she had to move and change identities several times be taken into account as something against him?

This would constitute a criminal offence, on its own ? So you have any evidence ?