I would like your opinion on something...

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I am a trans-women, I was born with the male physical body, but always identified as female, did everything commonly associated with "Female" Anyway, I have been told that I should not be allowed to use the female bathroom.

I was just wondering if you agree with this? My gender on my passport is female, I'm attracted to men, I look nothing like a man, yet people are trying to force me into their bathroom regardless, what is your position on the issue?

I would have a somewhat different opinion on post-op trans women. Although I still maintain that someone who is trans cannot really know what it is like to be a woman, i should accept that you had the right to use the female toilets.

I might not like it, but it would not be reasonable for you to use the gents.

MN? As in Mumsnet? if so, then, no. But I have been told what I am, as seen above, even though I don't identify with it, I guess other people decide who I am, not me, oh well.

Actually, no. You have decided you are a woman and everyone else must agree or.... what? What happens if we don't agree ?

The fact that you pass for a woman is irrelevant. Lots of trans people can't pass. We shouldn't say only girly looking people can.
You may be post op but the majority of trans people aren't. I think the issue is if we allow it in one place it spreads. I'm not comfortable with teen girls being forced to change with males at school for example.
What about using the men's bathroom bothers you out of interest? I'm not saying you should have to I'm just interested why it's a problem?

I am just like every other woman, just have that difference there, that's all.

Well, no, you aren't just like every other woman.

Nothing happens, I'm not going to force you to do anything. I believe strongly in freedom of speech and freedom of thought, you can hold any opinion you wish :)

Biology decided that you're male, not me

Well itsbetterthanabox, I guess if you imagined how it'd be for you if you were made to use the male bathrooms with men, you'd feel... unconfortable? Unsafe?

I am just like every other woman, just have that difference there, that's all

There is huge difference between you and me, not limited to the fact that you weren't born with a vagina.

I don't think you are a 'Peedo' ( sorry, can't type that straight as the term is reductive and laughable).
My issue would be that a biological male is accessing female space and that we are sleepwalking into a situation where that is actually ok.

I see from one of your updates that you're post op. That means you don't have a penis anymore, right? You've had a lady garden of sorts surgically made? Excuse my ignorance on this matter.

If this is the case, then I think it's fine for you to use the ladies.

However, if you still had a penis and balls, then IMHO you should be using the men's, regardless of how you feel inside.

I'm probably oversimplifying here but penis = men's room, vagina (original or surgically made) = ladies' room

Yep, post op, no penis.

I also have 0 testosterone, as I have been this way since birth, my accepting parents allowed me to start testosterone blockers before any got into my system, I only have oestrogen in my body.

Not being accepted when you are just trying to be what you've always felt like, but we must push on! No wonder almost 50% of Trans people kill themselves tbh....

That offends me. It's emotional manipulation to silence people who are critical of trans-narrative.

According to some parts of MN I should keep the house in showroom state and be ready for an inspection visit from MIL at anytime. I should do all the wifework to a good standard and be grateful it my DH offers to help me out.
According to others I should work, raise kids share all household chores and bills evenly and LTB if he is not up to it.
I define myself but with due respect to others feelings and beliefs.
People who frequently put gay, paedo and trans into the same sentence are a bit thick.
I do think that Y chromosome should disqualify you from the female team though.
I suffer from a big mix of opinions, like most people.

Well itsbetterthanabox, I guess if you imagined how it'd be for you if you were made to use the male bathrooms with men, you'd feel... unconfortable? Unsafe?

Yes, because they're bigger and stronger than me, and life has taught me to be wary around men.

Now, as a male bodied (albeit cosmetically modified) person, can you understand that women might find you a bit intimidating?

If you find going amongst males intimidating, can you not put yourself in the place of women and see why they find men, and those with the build of men a bit concerning too?

I have no problem with trans women using the ladies toilet.
But then I have no problem in using the gents toilet myself, if there's a queue at the ladies. If I need to go, I'll go.

I barge in (rightly or wrongly) pronouncing "excuse me, lady coming through".

But we are being made to use female bathrooms with males - males like you!

And fwiw, OP, I wouldn't consider you male, I would consider you female.

Don't be silenced at all! Feel free to express your opinion, hate me, insult me. Just don't throw bricks at me :D If you don't like me/don't think I'm a "Real woman" Or want me to die, I really have no fucks to give, I have gotten past that stage and I am comfortable. I asked this simply to see a feminist viewpoint on it. :)

Testosterone maketh not the man, as I expect you well know.

What is your point? That people on the internet shouldn't call you a paedophile? I agree.

If you just want them to call you a woman when you are not biologically one, however.......

I know a 50 yo transwoman. I have no idea if she is post op or not. She discreetly uses the women's toilets and no one bats an eyelid. If she suddenly started banging on about paedophilia we would all go wtf ? She thinks the idea of biological men competing against women in sport is ludicrous. She is like a person without extreme entitlement. She really is just like the rest of us because she knows where the line is.

You sound young, op. This sounds like a crusade for you. I think you are less comfortable in your own skin than you would have us, and yourself, believe.

"Male bodied" So having breasts, no testosterone, no penis and oestrogen in my body means male bodied? Okay.....

but always identified as female, did everything commonly associated with "Female"

I just don't understand what this means. I keep reading it but I can't make sense of it. What is it to identify as female? If you did everything commonly associated with female, did you have periods?