Germaine Greer

[IamTheWhoreofBabylon]

i never post here but I'm watching Germaine Greer on newsnight
Crazy, the woman is not allowed to discuss feminist issues without being forced to discuss transgender issues
Disclaimer- I really like GG
Am I reading this correctly? Why does she have to fight for a different groups issues

Intersectional feminism as I see it on Facebook includes an awful lot of telling women to "keep your mouth shut" and putting women at the back of the queue.

Just had a look on Twitter.

Fuck

love germaine and agree with everything she says re this subject

What I love about GG is that she is still all about liberation and is disdainful about equality, in the sense that she's not interested in measuring against men. She argues that women have rarely (ever?) had the space to explore what it means to be a woman without the yoke of a man-defined society.

Love her and hate that she has been treated so rudely.

Intersectional feminism is a good concept but seems mostly now to be a reason to tear down women and to stop feminist action.

Yep, "white feminist" and "your views are problematic" are the two phrases I see most from SJ Facebook pages.

Wonder if she'd had a Son or Daughter born in to the wrong body she would have the same view.

the twitter stuff is awful

I have such high respect for GG, not least that she keeps going despite us making a lot less progress than she must've anticipated.

Not going near twitter, that sort of stuff bothers me for days afterwards.

How do you get born in the wrong body? As I said on another thread, there aren't boy and girl cherubs floating about waiting for a sperm to meet an egg.

The mind doesn't match the body. What is a person, a body or a mind.

The mind and body are a package. The mind doesn't get put into the body. It doesn't make sense to say it's possible for mind and body not to match.

Is that like girls who can do sums while having ovaries?

I agree that the mind doesn't get put in a body. If people struggle to accept their body, perhaps they should have help coming to terms with that rather than taking drastic steps to change the body.

Wholeheartedly agree...

i find it silly that men who want to be women always go over the top with make up like all women are like that

i find it hard to see bruce jenner as anything rather than bruce 'can't stop the music' jenner. why would he live a lie for so long?

it's all pathetic and attention seeking on his part

I don't think all transwomen go OTT with make up etc to be fair. I know it seems common but I think that's partly because they have to try harder to be feminine than a born woman does in order to 'pass' (if that's the correct terminology) and probably also to prove their womanliness. I do find Caitlyn J attention seeking but I don't think she stands for all transwomen.

Intersectional feminism - a hugely important and necessary concept - has become, in internet social justice circles anyway, a horrendously bastardised concept that no longer means 'remember that women of colour/lesbians/disabled women/poor women/etc deal with compounding oppressions', but instead means 'this white man is allowed to call you a cunt because he wears nail varnish sometimes.' I despair.

There are male and female brains, with a combination in between, it makes perfect sense to me that a foetus could developed with all sorts of variations. People are born intersex, why not female brain in a male body or the other way around.

There are not male and female brains in terms of functions.

You can't look at a brain and know what sex or gender it is.

But if we didn't have gender stereotyping, then someone with the opposite sex's brain (?) could express themselves however they wished, and might be comfortable keeping the body they've got.

There are male and female bodies, but there's no such beast as a male or female brain!

And it's really distasteful to bring intersex people into this, given that most intersex groups have asked that they are kept out of it. They have enough to deal with without being used as poster people for trans*ideology, don't you think?

Anyway, intersex is a biological thing, not a brain thing.

There is no such thing as male or female brains.