Feminist Pub 17: The Bluestocking frolics in the fells and fens of feminism

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This is the 17th incarnation of the Feminist Pub!

Here be goats, cannons and chat on feminism and related themes. Also snacks. And booze, copious booze.

Welcome!

I don't know why. I feel the same about Atheism. I'm an atheist (though if I were to be anything other than that, I'd be polytheist with the Greek gods and Ancient Egyptian gods; you can blackmail the Egyptian ones ) with a little a, but I could never engage with the atheist movement as it seems utterly full of misogynistic twats.

Richard Dawkins. Git. 'Nuff said.

I'm atheist/ agnostic/ vaguely pagan sometimes too.

Had a conversation the other week about annoyance over being called "miss". Told oh maybe they are from a different culture maybe that's how they are taught in school etc (by a woman). Am fed up with finding excuses for other people. I just want to say STFU. Why can't I just be annoyed because the world is just unfair??

I subscribe to anti-bastardism.

Pull up a chair, and let us grumble together! I have also grumbled today about amateur psychology and that ever-favourite perennial, 'kids today'. Men of course always provide such temptingly large targets. Isn't that nice of them. Pick a topic, any topic.

Oh how about the ones grumbling about secondary school girls and their short skirts? FFS leave them alone!!!

Just grabbing a chair for later :)

Back to karate this evening. I shall endeavour not to get smacked in the head.

But yes, bastarding everything. Especially unemployment.

Oh yes, unemployment. As a sahm with 4 years out looking after kids I can drink to that and no doubt underemployment at best...

Which brings me on to bastarding incompetent politicians with no ideas beyond feathering their own nests and the total bastarding global capitalist world order. I might be going round in circles

Or more accurately going round in spirals, for 'tis written, you never come back to your starting position, you never step back into the same river. Good wine here. Ooh I just saw a daffodil in the emoticons! Perking up a bit, nice cheery yellow flowers! Ta Mumsnet!

Yes we have in the garden!

In fact we have

It does make you smile.

Must arrange to be in Wales next St David's day (2016), I remember once seeing whole streets and every shop window covered in 's. It was lovely! We should all do it. Bastarding Christianity for taking away all old pagan celebrations and bastarding world global capitalist economic order for taking away all public celebrations and public life!

There's a little walkway between two rows of houses near where I live. It's unremarkable until spring time when the two narrow strips of green either sides are covered in daffodils. There's also an ugly little pebble-dashed house down the road which puts on the most remarkable daffodil display in its front garden. It just goes to show ... something or other....

Celandines are quite nice too (the little wild star-like yellow flowers). Perhaps there is a god after all, putting bright cheery yellow flowers on after the winter. Though I think I'll still try to hit him if I ever meet him.

Lol at praising st David's day and "bastarding Christianity" in the same post

(I do know what you mean though!)

I wondered if anyone was going to pick me up on that Might as well make the most of them, for lo HQ has given and soon will take away

We have hellebores too and there are some bulbs coming up but I don't remember what they are.

But the crocus have died a death and nowhere to be seen. :(

I started to tidy up the back garden (should have done it last oct but I'm lazy) but ds is now down with a bad cold and is alternatively looking sad / crying at me everywhere and being carried when I can't stand the sad any more. We saw a bee in a crocus about two weeks ago and he's remembered and keeps looking for it. A bee! In mid-Feb!

Hmm, I came for a rant but have now lost heart for rant but still feeling a bit grumpy and out of sorts (and hungry!)

So I shall say in short: Do you think it's a feminist issue that women, largely, do all of the navel gazing and analysing and wondering which way is best whereas men largely get on with things and don't worry about it too much? Or perhaps they are busy worrying about big important man things and don't have the headspace. Do you think if I got myself some big man type issues to worry about, that I'd stop navel gazing?

I like that there is a navel gazing bench in the feminist pub :) Does it have magnifying glasses and tweezers? (You know, for the fluff!)

Feminism is often seen as a bit of unnecessary navel gazing, isn't it? Especially on topics like that Guess Who thread and other things like that. But it isn't unnecessary or trivial at all.

If you are a woman whatever you naval-gaze about are trivial unimportant issues. If you are a man whatever you naval-gaze about are important man-issues. HTH.

All you gloaty fuckers with flowers and shit.
I just cleared a solid layer of ice off the car. 'Twas about a quarter inch thick and the windscreen slid off in one huge chunk (the ice that is). Now I have the joy of driving home in rain/ice storm to look forward to.

Just FYI ice storms sound cool but they really are NOT. Grump.

Drive safely kickass