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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminist Pub 17: The Bluestocking frolics in the fells and fens of feminism

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AKnickerfulOfMenace · 07/02/2015 19:25

This is the 17th incarnation of the Feminist Pub!

Here be goats, cannons and chat on feminism and related themes. Also snacks. And booze, copious booze.

Welcome!

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UptoapointLordCopper · 23/02/2015 14:55

Hello!

Have not looked on most boards. Lucky escape, it would seem!

I'm sticking to this thread, recipe ones, and the wolf hall one. Grin

GibberingFlapdoodle · 23/02/2015 15:42
GibberingFlapdoodle · 23/02/2015 15:44

Just heard pub gossip, would it be against mn rules to write that sticky up? About the standard myths men come out with around sexual crimes etc?

PuffinsAreFictitious · 23/02/2015 15:56

What I don't understand is, if your friend said that her husband beat her, you would support her.

I've never heard anyone read about a mugging and say "oh, but it might not have happened, I won't believe them until it's gone to court... anything else is damaging to the defendant's right to a fair trial".

On the evidence of that fucking horrible thread, I would suggest that there are one or two of the posters on there who probably would doubt those 2 scenarios. In fact, didn't the most infamous of them actually say that she would doubt someone saying they had been robbed because she knew someone who had lied about a burglary for the insurance? Might have been one of the others, but, jeez, what horrible people she knows, all those people who lie about being victims of crime!

Sometimes I think that MN is quite a wonderful feministy space, and then you have a thread like that, and realise that there is a hard core of women who really, and I mean seriously, hate other women. I almost feel sorry for them, they miss out on wonderful friendships, and then I stop, because they really don't deserve them.

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom · 23/02/2015 16:09

Well yes. Sigh.

There are a few posters who I never invest in debating with. I may sometimes engage them at arms length.

GibberingFlapdoodle · 23/02/2015 16:19

Wasn't that bad really, it was fun playing, but I don't have the mental stamina to keep up any more.

SconeRhymesWithGone · 23/02/2015 16:42

There's another thread too, less disturbing, but sad in its own way, in which posters are falling over themselves to say they experienced no discrimination, even in male dominated industries, life is wonderful for women, I'm ok, so all is well with the world, etc. I finally posted on it and appear to have killed it.

UptoapointLordCopper · 23/02/2015 16:53

Scones Which thread is that? There was a time I thought I have never experienced discrimination too. Hahahaha. >

Enormouse · 23/02/2015 17:37

Puffins that mouthy minority is pathetically tiny. They seem to crawl out the woodwork every so often, I think this has just been a bad weekend.
I have found amazing support here and felt brave enough to say what I went through trying to access an abortion because I know MN is a liberal, intelligent, feminist space. And that wasn't just FWR, it was the swagger inn, pregnancy choices and MN as a whole. And you should be proud of that. Don't let Bumblejuice and her minions take that from you.

scone that thread was a bit odd. Like a parallel universe.

PuffinsAreFictitious · 23/02/2015 17:46

Oh, I know Enormouse, and I am so glad that you were so well supported. I'm tired, and I'm always a bit pessimistic when hooped. I'll be back to my usual annoyingly perky self tomorrow Grin

SoMuchForSubtlety · 23/02/2015 18:26

Scone that thread Confused

Although I recognise it.

Time was, I thought I wasn't held back at all by being female, oh no, so any visible discrimination (most countries and companies being run by men) was simply a generational issue and as I aged it would change.

Then I realised (a) I wasn't getting treated the same as the blokes at work, whilst being just as good as them, and that isn't getting better as I get older and more senior it's getting worse; and (b) where are the female leaders I dreamed of? There's a smattering but we're still a looooong way from parity.

Hence here I am in the pub.

AnnieLobeseder · 23/02/2015 18:54

Evening all!

It seems I've been lucky in only encountering amusing threads lately. I spent far too much of this afternoon on the "What's your "so, how's Adam?" moment?" thread, which was vair funny. My brain is still exhausted from moving so I'm not sure I could cope with a thread full of handmaidens at the moment.

In quite exciting news, I have two job interviews coming up; a phone interview tomorrow morning and an in-person one next Monday. This is all a great relief - I haven't had an interview since well before Christmas and was getting quite desperate for some kind of positive job-hunt-based movement.

PetulaGordino · 23/02/2015 19:12

Good luck annie! Are you surrounded by boxes?

AnnieLobeseder · 23/02/2015 19:14

Not quite as surrounded as we were, Petula. We can actually see some patches of floor and don't need to go mining to find our bed of an evening. Grin

The painful part is that this is just a temporary house so we get to do it all again in a few months. Sad (why don't we have a crying emoticon?)

PetulaGordino · 23/02/2015 19:17

Gosh yes that is a painful thought. Hard to know how unpacked you should get really!

PuffinsAreFictitious · 23/02/2015 19:19

Exciting news Annie! Keep us posted.

OublietteBravo · 23/02/2015 19:27

One of my lab-based friends just posted this. And now suddenly I'm feeling annoyed with the world. Does raising money for any kind of cause somehow justify gender stereotyping? Did I miss the memo on that?

Feminist Pub 17: The Bluestocking frolics in the fells and fens of feminism
UptoapointLordCopper · 23/02/2015 19:35

Subtlety Exactly what I was going to post! Discriminated against, me? By my colleagues and friends? Surely not! Hahahahahahaha.

thatstoast · 23/02/2015 20:00

I've had an awful day in work. I am surrounded by unhelpful jobsworths. Please pass the closest drink. I don't care what.

I wish I lived in happy no sexism land with the rest of those mumsnetters. Maybe one day!

AnnieLobeseder · 23/02/2015 20:07

Oh, Oubliette, that's just so fucking depressing! Will there be a matching blue one for prostate cancer Hmm #whaddaboudamenz

I had a fetching turquoise one. Even my feeble girl hands managed to operate it. And oddly, the normal version is called Pipetman, and yet this feminised version is Pipetgirl? I imagine the "sensible folk" will put this down to Pipetwoman not having quite the same ring to it.

Gah!

I always just call them "Sucker Upper-ers" anyway.

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 23/02/2015 20:16

It's pipetboy!

www.integra-biosciences.com/sites/pipetboy_pro.html

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OublietteBravo · 23/02/2015 20:18

Your comment about blue ones/prostrate cancer is pretty much exactly what I posted in response

We always referred to them as 'Gilsons' (regardless of what make they were). I think my last set were grey Eppendorf ones...

I refused to accept my five year service award - the powers-that-be decided that I should have a shiny lightweight purple pen. Whilst anyone male got a business-like sturdy navy one. Which I couldn't have because they 'hadn't ordered enough to give people a choice'Hmm

OublietteBravo · 23/02/2015 20:24

although I did once work in a man that didn't have any because they still routinely used mouth pipetting

OublietteBravo · 23/02/2015 20:24

Bugger -lab not man. Don't know where autocorrect got that fromBlush

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