Feminist Pub 16: where the Bluestockings develop armoured stockings to deal with the thousand paper cuts

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Carry on.

Just to be clear, restorative work would not be about the offender feeling better or moving on. It would be about the victim feeling heard and that the experience was helpful for them, and about it reducing the likelihood of further offending. It would never happen if for example the offender was denying it, or was going to get some sort of kick from the process. It's usually not face to face and is carefully managed.

Ah Ok, sorry. I'm not familiar with that. I'm not English and I don't think we have anything like it back home. My concern would be that women might feel coerced by their communities/churches or friends and family in to doing the whole forgiving thing. Or that the it might be pushed to "punish" the attacker and just end up making things worse for the victim. But I also think it's unfair for them to not have the option if that's standard. I'm a bit hmm at the idea as a whole.

I'm just going to curl up on a beanbag in the corner with a cup of hot chocolate to regroup before heading back out into Those Two Threads. Don't mind me. I'm happy to make a cup for anyone else who needs one....

We are going to ice some cupcakes.

I have never seen the point of water icing.

I need somewhere to hide too. DS1 just threw a tantrum because he can't get a tricky part of his cello right. And I just threw a tantrum because I'm sick of people throwing tantrums.

Joins hiding spot. DS threw epic wobbly as grandad put his drink in the wrong cup. And we're on pox watch.

I am done with hot choc and onto wine. The patriarchy has done brought me low this evening. Oh well, it's Friday and there will be pizza shortly.

This has cheered me up slightly though. Though sad that the push-back was required in the first place.

"Spotty of chin and wide of thigh, she nonetheless summoned the courage to leave the house and do things."

I have a sore throat from shouting.

Ooh, hot chocolate. It is cold enough for that.

High fliers to me are people who rise to the top of whatever their occupation is quite quickly and quite young. They usually get high salaries, power and influence as a result of that.

I don't know what high fliers are either, but probably what Ebear says. I have been told that I have low standards , so I'm probably not a high flier.

What's the thread about high fliers?

I was talking to someone the other day who was saying how women never define themselves that way, and that's why women academics don't make it to professor. As if, you know, if only we went around sounding like giant boastful wankers, we'd eradicate sexism.

I have been told that I have high standards - too high. Good enough is good enough.

They don't live up to my standards, and sometimes, I let it be known. I don't expect anything from them that I wouldn't be able to do myself.

I've not long got home from wok, to be greeted by DH elling me all about the abortion debate on women's hour this morning, and how utterly angry the "pro-choice" woman made him. He said that she had absolutely no respect for the women she was slagging off at all.

I am really quite proud of him and his feminist ally anger.

He now uses the term forced birther instead of pro-life as well.

I listened to that 'debate' too and wondered why that woman had so little respect for women and bodily autonomy. What I have noticed about these so called pro life types is their attitude to poor women with children: they often want to deny them benefits because having children is a lifestyle choice. Their human rights stand falls apart as soon as the foetus breathes air.