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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminist Pub 15: The Bluestocking hangs up its, err, stocking and hopes for a chatty Christmas and a Feminist New Year

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YonicSleighdriver · 10/12/2014 19:05

Festive greetings!

This is the 15th incarnation of the Pub and is meant as a place to drop by with random thoughts and meandering chats, on feminist or other related themes. Anything you want to mull over but not necessarily start a thread about. Alternatively, get some booze and snacks and hang out! Lurkers, newbies and oldbies welcome.

We have a pub goat, a feminist cannon for firing at crazy sexists and we cheer each other up when patriarchy grinds us down...

Last pub drinkie linkie:

Pub 14

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Dragonlette · 05/01/2015 19:57

That doesn't hold anywhere near enough stuff though Grin I'd need several Grin I have this plan for when we get a new car that it will be kept clean, there will be no rubbish in the footwells and the boot will only contain the things we need that day. It'll never happen, within a week it'll look like a tip.

PuffinsAreFictitious · 05/01/2015 20:48

Any Mansplainer in particular?

Do I get 20 questions?

YonicSleighdriver · 05/01/2015 21:30

On a Ched thread. He agrees with the verdict, praise the goddess, but would like us all to speak in the "exact" terms he is using and essentially sees the whole thing as a debating society exercise, as far as I can see.

I'm now using the SGM button on him Grin

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PetulaGordino · 05/01/2015 21:36

Are you telling him you're Canadian? Grin

Dp bought me a new walking/running/cycling rucksack for my birthday. It has many cool features including many many pockets

PuffinsAreFictitious · 05/01/2015 21:53

I thought it might be him.... Betsy would be very useful there.

DoctorTwo · 05/01/2015 21:58

I have a Coat Of Many Pockets, and the pockets are organised thusly: Left pocket, coins, tissue, lipbalm. Right pocket, smoking paraphernalia. Left zip pocket, book of stamps. Right zip pocket, wallet. Inside pocket, pens, reading glasses.

Trouser pockets: right front, phone. Left front, keys, lighter. Left rear, receipts to sort through, left rear, the odd fiver.

I have a bag as well which is known as the handbag. It carries my in car satnav, my handheld GPS for geocaching, a notebook, the book I'm currently reading, spare reading glasses, trackable geocaching doodahs, spare pens and other assorted shite.

I have no idea what's in my glove box, can't remember the last time I opened it. Whatever is in there will probably have evolved into a sentient being when I get round to opening it. :o

Wrt the Ched Evans stuff, I understand the 'done the crime, done the time and he should be allowed to carry on his career' pov. What people who argue this line don't seem to get is that he still believes he did nothing wrong, that he believes it's his right to wank into a woman who is not capable of giving consent. They never seem to have an answer when asked if it would be ok for their sister, daughter, niece etc to be treated like this young woman.

Lastly, my NYR was to write every day. Indeed, it still is, so I decided I needed a topic I know little about but was interested in. So I thought I'd research and write about The Blockchain. It's new and it's the future. I've done a bit of rudimentary research and I reckon I could have something written in a couple of months. Maybe a couple more if I want it to be any good and stand up to scrutiny.

Sorry about the disjointed post, it's been a long day. I'm utterly caked, and to put the tin hat on things my tellybox has broke.

DoctorTwo · 05/01/2015 22:05

Oh, and it's right pocket, the odd fiver. Like I said, long day...

ErrolTheDragon · 05/01/2015 22:45

One way to get a good deal on a new car is to find out what it would cost from OrangeWheels, then tell the showroom that if they can't match that you're not interested. (show them the number on a phone or tablet, leaves them nowhere to wiggle to)

NotAnotherPackedLunchBox · 05/01/2015 22:58

This article on Ched Evans in the Independent might be useful to direct your mansplainer to yonic.

UptoapointLordCopper · 06/01/2015 07:27

I have the car manual in the glove compartment - the WTF-does-this-button-do book.

I saw a new wallet which is a bit smaller than my current wallet and really fancy it. How many cards/receipts can I cull from old wallet so as to fit essential content in new wallet if I buy it? I have five library cards in my current wallet...

ChunkyPickle · 06/01/2015 08:24

Oh! That reminds me, we bought our car nearly 4 years ago, and I still haven't been through the manual to find out what the mysterious button just behind my seat on the wall of the car between the front and back doors do.

It has a wobbly line symbol (bit like 5th element), seems to be a lit button, but pressing it doesn't appear to do anything at all (I couldn't resist one day)

UptoapointLordCopper · 06/01/2015 09:17

Chunky As long as it's not the ejector button. Grin

UptoapointLordCopper · 06/01/2015 09:18

So if you have a button with a little light and it says OFF on the button (not the light), then is it ON or OFF when the light is off? Confused

ChunkyPickle · 06/01/2015 09:44

I've had that discussion about our anti-skid doofrah. I feel that it must be off if the button is lit. DP wasn't so sure and had to read the manual.

UptoapointLordCopper · 06/01/2015 09:46

Reading the manual = cheating. Grin

Only joking. I'm a great one for reading manuals. Just haven't got round to this one yet ...

UptoapointLordCopper · 06/01/2015 09:46

But what is the conclusion on the ON/OFF thing?

ErrolTheDragon · 06/01/2015 09:55

Chunky - I've got a button on my door pillar, it's the one which turns off the motion sensors if you need to lock a dog or child in the car. Not sure what the symbol on it is but it's very useful (if you've got a dog). I did actually RTFM (quite a bit of it, not cover to cover) when I got my new car.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/01/2015 09:59

My conclusion on the on/off button question is that it's a poor user interface if it isn't clear what it means. But I think if it's something that by default you'd want on, then if when its lit it shows OFF then that's a warning that you've disabled something (like traction control or stop/start).

UptoapointLordCopper · 06/01/2015 10:35

Errol That makes sense. I think I sometimes don't trust my judgement on what is accepted as sensible as what is not because lots of things that people seem to accept look a bit bonkers to me.

kickassangel · 06/01/2015 11:25

I need to work out how to make the passenger airbag stay on when did is in the front. She is so light that the car thinks she's a baby in a car seat. She's 11. Just how heavy are some babies?

ChunkyPickle · 06/01/2015 11:30

Ohhh Errol - that might indeed be it - it's kinda hidden, but not such a weird place if you're bent over buckling kids in.

You may have solved my mystery..

kickass - are you sure you want it on for an 11 year old? Aren't they not the best thing in the world if you're short? I know that if I have a crash I'm likely to get quite a going over from the steering wheel airbag because being 5' tall I'm quite close to it (despite cranking the seat all the way up, because my feet have to reach the pedals). Isn't this actually a feminist angle - that they dummies they use for crash testing come in 'man' and 'child' and they don't actually test for the average woman? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/01/2015 12:17

Just staggered in here feeling like I need a drink... on the GCSE support thread, 'proms' have cropped up - specifically various DDs already having their dresses/shoes and worked out their hairstyle and makeup. Apparently there are 'prom dress shops' where 'fitting dates' are already going into April.

I've just asked what boys wear to these events....

UptoapointLordCopper · 06/01/2015 12:43

I remember feeling really awkward when I left home and discovered that there were such things as discos and balls. Shock And that you buy new dresses. And that you put make up on. Shock Shock How sheltered was I!

YonicSleighdriver · 06/01/2015 13:01

I see the MP arrested for rape before Xmas has had the charges dropped for insufficient evidence and is now calling for anonymity for those accused of rape and is stating that it was a false accusation (which of course it may be, but doesn't that term also have a strict legal meaning that rules out eg mistaken identity?)

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EBearhug · 06/01/2015 15:24

Some of my US colleagues are involved with a charity - the name of which I can't currently remember - but it's sort of prom dress mentoring; I raised my eyebrows quite a bit at hearing about this. However, proms are v mainstream in the USA, and it means girls who otherwise couldn't afford it get to borrow a dress alongside some mentoring about careers and self-presentation (standing tall - confident body language); it's to give them some normal social opportunities they might otherwise miss put on.

But my eyebrows are still somewhat questioning if this is the best use of volunteering. And while it might be easier to borrow a dinner suit than a prom dress (don't know, never tried to borrow either) there must still be boys who need some help because of social exclusion through poverty, lack of confidence and self-belief. I think it's good to help them out, but I can't help feeling work experience or something would be more meaningful. But maybe I think that way because I'm British rather than American, so proms don't have the same significance to me.