109 women prosecuted for false rape claims in past 5 years

[AWholeLottaNosy]

This made me so angry. The thousands of women that can't get justice for being raped due to 'lack of evidence' yet the CPS thinks it's ok to pursue these women for reporting their rape to the police. We all know how incredibly hard it is to report a rape and the facts speak for themselves, aprox 85,000 rapes a year, 5-15% are reported, of those reported rapes, only 6% get a conviction. This is a fucking travesty but it seems like it's easier to get a conviction for a false rape allegation than get a conviction for a devastating, life altering crime? Something is very wrong here...

www.theguardian.com/law/2014/dec/01/109-women-prosecuted-false-rape-allegations

Oh and last thing, false rape allegations are aprox 2% of all reported allegations, similar to other types of crime.

'Do you have daughters, marnia? How would you like them to be violated and then have everyone pick apart their lives looking for ways to put the blame on them, send them abuse and threats, cause them to have to change their identity and go into hiding? And that was the treatment meted out to a woman whose rapist was found guilty! '

What has that got to do with anything? They are 2 unrelated issues

Actually I hadn't realisd I had strayed onto the feminist board.
there is no point trying to reason with you lot!

Men who are convicted of rape - who are jailed for rape, even - don't have their lives ruined, never mind the ones who are accused of it. I don't buy this "mens' lives are ruined" thing.

Except apparently William Roach, who's life has been destroyed in some secret, not destroyed in any way sense by evil women. Does anyone know how long that bad bad person got for 'falsely accusing' him? and yes, I know, even the CPS believe her still

The feeling is mutual, Narnia.

LOL!

Of course not, the words Feminist Chat at the top of the thread you're commenting on is just a lie...

You see women and girls are in a real bind aren't they.

Here is a poster who would presumably tell us that it would be "unfair" of us not to get in a cab with a man who we know is awaiting a trial for rape.

And yet in the event that man then raped you, how would society react? They'd say well what did you fucking expect?

This is the bind isn't it. Women and girls are continually told they MUST remain in / put themselves in situations with men they would rather not be in, as it is unfair to the men, and insulting to them, to do otherwise. And yet the moment something happens they are told unequivocally that it is their own fault and how did they not realise that this man was a rapist and get away oh well you must have been asking for it.

It's all bollocks isn't it.

".One of the women when she got to court admitted to not even knowing she had been raped."

And?

Many women who are raped, don't realise that what has just happened to them, is rape.

In so many heterosexual relationships, sex is defined as something in which a woman doesn't actually have to be actively participating, let alone enjoying. And so when a man rapes her and the whole of her society is telling her that rape is something that happens in a dark alleyway with a monster, not someone who looks like an average guy, of course many women don't make the connection and recognise rape when it happens to them.

Buffy I think she's gone back to AIBU now. That hotbed of reasoned discourse and sensible discussion

Are there two Buffys?

The last "Buffy" post is from BuffytheFestiveFeminist.

No, AICM. Into every generation, a Buffy is born. Just the one, though.

It's Christmas name season!

Just checked, they are all from "Festive". Is it still Buffy?

Of course it is AICM, it's just the MN version of a Christmas jumper. Buffy will no doubt still be jolly reasonable, she'll just also be doing it while being festive.

Think reasonable, while wearing Christmas tree earrings.

"I think the OP should read 'retracted rape allegations' to be honest."

Actually, if someone is prosecuted for a false rape allegation then it really was a false rape allegation.

For a rape allegation to be recorded as such, it must be proven as such.

If a man is found not guilty through lack of evidence, that will not count as a false allegation.

If a woman simply retracts her accusation, that will not count as a false allegation.

But if a woman admits to lying, or as someone else said evidence such as the man being able to prove he was elsewhere or something then that will count as a false allegation.

"People suspected of committing other crimes (including murder) don't get anonymity. Why are accused rapists so special that they need it? *haven't yet seen an answer that doesn't boil down to the poor, innocent men need to be protected from all the lying women"

Being wrongly accused of any crime isn't pleasant. But being accused of less serious crimes doesn't quite destroy the accused's life in the same way an accusation of rape would. For allegations of less serious crimes the police often won't even make an arrest unless the accuser has some sort of evidence, and even if they do go to court the media generally doesn't take much interest unless they are found guilty.

But when it comes to the topic of rape, the accuser's word is all it takes to land a guy in court and have his photo and name splashed all over the media (even before he goes to court and has a chance to say anything in his defence). Even if found not guilty, there will be no shortage of people will still believe he really is a rapist and treat him as such for the rest of his life (which means a life of receiving abuse/threats/violent attacks etc).

In many people's eyes, there is zero difference between men accused of rape and men convicted of rape.

Another one who doesn't believe rape accusations ruin a man's life. I was raped aged 22 by a 19 year old. By then he already had a conviction because he had befriended an underage girl in a chat room, met her and raped her. My case wasn't prosecuted because he said it was consenting (nice little tip to would-be rapists there). His life was ruined by his conviction, it didn't affect what he did or how the CPS viewed it and neither did it stop him raping again.

(I have been chastised on MN in the past for saying I was raped because he was never never tried and found guilty, so I probably shouldn't have said that I was raped by him, I accused him of rape)