Feminist Pub 14: The Bluestocking, a place for feminist chat and feminists to chat

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Welcome!

This is the 14th incarnation of the Pub and is meant as a place to drop by with random thoughts and meandering chats, on feminist or other related themes. Anything you want to mull over but not necessarily start a thread about. Alternatively, flop onto the chaise lounges with some

We have a pub goat, a feminist cannon for firing at crazy sexists and a variety of drinks and snacks. And stools/bar counters at female friendly heights. And a crèche in the back somewhere

Will link the last pub in the next post!

EBearHug - yes, that's a good idea - I was also thinking down the lines that there are an uneven number of boys and girls (can't remember which way it's skewed) - but if it's more boys then it sounds like I'm being overly precious about my boy.

I shall engage the secretary in chat this morning and suggest it.

I've already raised it as a vague point with the parents I stand with in the playground.

I can't believe how I'm fine challenging family, strangers, shops, but when it comes to the (vaguely - and not even over me) authority figures at my child's school I lose the plot!

Hello 50shades! Like your name.

What Norfolk person? On second thoughts, don't tell me...

Chunky Good luck with hampers. It beggers believe that people would actually inconvenient themselves and go out of the way to enforce gender stereotype. Why would you do that!?

Apologies to the people of Norfolk, I should havd said "that BBC Radio Norfolk presenter". There's a thread about it LordCopper, but if you are depressed enough about misogyny and rape myths in the Media you could probably guess the rest...

Morning! Hello 50shades.
How's the new job going Petula?

Could I have a large tea please? I've arrived way too early for a seminar so am MNing in the car.

I may need to take a break from MN though - I dreamt that I went to a FWR meetup last night! It was cool obviously, but not as cool as the night before when I dreamt I lived in Howl's Moving Castle. It RULED.

Don't look, LordC. Trust me...

Ooo! Howl's Moving Castle! That'd be a nice place to live in (as long as there's no Wicked Witch of the Waste). Where would your doors open to?

I need to plant some seeds this afternoon. Somebody tell me I can deal with my garden. It's only small.

I'm amused by my desktop at work. It shouts ECOQUIET when it starts up...

Hello all, trying to stay off MN atm as got a shed load of work to do but a quick half in the pub won't hurt, will it?!

Strength to all of those who need it this week.

Congratulations Karma!

Hi 50shades!

Go deal with your garden Uptoapoint*, it will be beautiful when it's done. ignores sea of plastic toys and dead plants in own garden

I need to step off twitter, it's just so full of aresholes.

Forgot to say congratulations to Karma and welcome to BabyKarma! I hope all is going well

Hello all. Been away for work, but Iiiiii'm bbaaaacck!

So...

• Assisted in getting a male misogynist called twindad76 banned on a relationships thread

• Growled at an interfering man on a plane "I am sick of being told by men what to do."

• Had a great discussion with a female work colleague about feminism without ever mentioning the F word

• Gave a mouthy, obnoxious, misogynistic man a filthy, filthy, filthy look that shut him and crappy friend up

How's everyone else's week been?

Morning all

Welcome 50Shades, and many congratulation to karma. I hope you're getting some sleep.

I am sulking because I have had yet another "we thought you were great in interview but the other candidate was slightly more awesome so we're offering the job to them" email. Gah! I need a job!

Those of you who are trying to shift a bit of weight, I have a thread going to general chat, support and accountability going. It has gone quiet, which is annoying, but I shall plough on regardless. Please come along and join in if you think it could be helpful to you.

I don't tweet, mostly because I am not often capable of saying things concisely. Why use 140 characters when 1400 words will do... But the other reason is that it does seem to attract a higher number of people who are more about offending people than actual discussion.

Oh, and also I have a limit to my social media capabilities alongside having a full-time job and so on. I've not been allocating enough time for sleep recently as it is.

Annie I have signed up to run a half marathon next year, so am hoping that the training for that will be the kick up the bum I need to shift two stone.

I know it's early but I just need a bit of respite - over shared on a rape thread and have got a bit upset about some of it. I'm going to go back and have another go at discussion though, I need to practice getting a bit more resilient on this. I'm often more of a lurker in this area than a contributor, and I'm very glad you're here!

Ha - talking to some of the other donaters, and so far they're all as subversive as me! Skipping rope and ball will both be just toys rather than pink/bluified for example, no-one so far gets why they have to be boys and girls either (although, it seems some other parents won't feel the same way - the gossip is that there has been a girls only birthday party, and that there's a boys only one coming up).

Didn't get into see the secretary, but I'm there early tomorrow so will try again.

Thanks Buffy - other FWR regulars are there and expressing it with much more eloquence and impact. Yes it is a particularly grim period, isn't it? In my little corner I am pleased that I can articulate myself a bit now, and that DH is having a sort of parallel feminist awakening - it makes for interesting discussions and helps me retain my sense of hope.

Have also had to explain to a male colleague that just because he didn't see any gender discrimination doesn't mean it's not there.

I'm hibernating at home and not talking to anybody from now on. Even the DC make more sense. Which is something.

I will get on to seed-planting after picking up kids. Must also fox- and squirrel-proof the bloody things. That's where the old cot sides come in.

EE

EE There are some truly horrible opinions being expressed on that thread. I suspect that at least some of the horrible opinions are being expressed by people who are themselves horrible. One in particular made me just want to gather up the victim of the original rape, hug her, and say "it was not your fault you were raped as a child." Then take the poster who was doing the victim blaming and... (well, let's just say I am not a pacifist).

Weird as it is to think there are any silver linings to getting all of my unwanted sexual contact out of the way by age seven... I've never had anyone victim blaming, either directly or indirectly. And, Buffy, did you mean imply, or have I been using infer incorrectly for the past two decades?