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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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37 year old man here

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BlueStahli · 28/09/2014 20:11

Hello,

I'm a 37 year old male, married, with two children--a boy and a girl.

I've always had an issue with sexism. But only recently have I been delving headlong into it. I've been researching facts and studies, talking to people, getting opinions, and voicing my own views. In the process, I stumbled across this site. So I joined. I hope to learn much here. Needless to say, I'll be spending most of my time hanging out in the feminism forum.

My reasons for being here are three-fold:

  1. I want facts! I want to know how sexism and discrimination have been measured/studied scientifically and what results have been found. I want to know what kinds of government policies and human rights have been instated (or removed) and where in the world this has happened. I'm tired of anecdotal stories and questioning how biased people's claims are and I feel I'm ready to take a position on more secure grounds--but I need to build those grounds first.

  2. I feel I can contribute much to feminism by offering a man's perspective. I wear my heart of my sleeve and I'm not afraid to reveal personal information. But I also feel that if I'm going to give my perspective on certain issues, I'm going to have to earn the right to do it first (so you won't get it in my first post :)). I'm confident that I can do this in a constructive/non-offensive way, and if I ever do step out of line (never advertently), I'm open to being corrected. Ultimately, I feel that if two groups are trying to settle their differences, there's no better way than to hear the perspectives on both sides.

  3. I've got issues! :) I really do! Like I said, I've always had issues with sexism, and lately I've been on a self-induced "therapy kick". I've been forcing myself to "get over it". Diving into the issue with other peopleother womenis how I'm doing it. I don't think I'll ever be "cured" of my issues, but if I'm going to be stuck with them, I figure I might as well have them for the right reasons (i.e. educating myself--as in #1 above).

So that's my spiel.

So first order of business: I'd like to ask if there are any males on this forum--particularly ones that frequent the feminism forum. I'd like to ask their advice on how a man conducts himself on a forum devote to moms and feminism.

Thanks :)

OP posts:
PetulaGordino · 30/09/2014 15:29

oh god bif, that's how i feel when i accidentally stumble across posts i wrote months ago...

vezzie · 30/09/2014 15:35

Was kuj deleted because he was just a sockpuppet of the OP? Or some other reason? I didn't, sadly, get to a single one of his / her posts before they disappeared.

MNHQ please explain as this is now a mystifyingly holey fred

Bifauxnen · 30/09/2014 15:36

Grin I lurk to avoid having to confront my idiocy.

Your posts are awesome though. Thanks

PetulaGordino · 30/09/2014 15:41

you're lovely bif Flowers

tbh i comfort myself that it shows how quickly and how much i'm learning from other people's posts and reading here and elsewhere

TheCunkOfPhilomena · 30/09/2014 15:42

What a superb thread. I do hope the OP is reading even if he has decided no to make any further comment.

I am a lurker btw.

neiljames77 · 30/09/2014 15:50

He was basically blaming feminism for society's attitude, when the culprit is........ well...... society.

I don't think he should have left or had his posts deleted, personally.
I'd have liked to have seen his feedback. It's no good just dropping a grenade and running off. He may have got to the point where he realised, "actually, I was wrong ".

BuffyBotRebooted · 30/09/2014 15:53

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AnyFucker · 30/09/2014 15:59

Give over Buffy, you are one of the coolest and most articulate posters here Smile

AmyMumsnet · 30/09/2014 16:01

Hi everyone,

Thanks for flagging the mysterious withdrawal. We think what happened is that we tried to delete all their posts, but for some reason the deletion message was changed to a withdrawal message.

Rest assured we haven't given them any special allowances .

YonicScrewdriver · 30/09/2014 16:06

Neil, pretty sure he was a PBP - coming out with the same old same old.

OP hasn't been deleted as he may be genuinely misguided!

GarlicSeptimus · 30/09/2014 16:16

very good, Amy! You've practised on your kids, haven't you Grin

neiljames77 · 30/09/2014 16:16

I just thought it might have been someone who might genuinely want answers but actually,I was wrong

(there you go Buffy. First time ever)
Smile

BuffyBotRebooted · 30/09/2014 16:21

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PetulaGordino · 30/09/2014 16:25

neil, if you start going around being ostentatiously wrong on threads and then apologising and admitting it we will notice Grin

AnyFucker · 30/09/2014 16:25

< peers at Neil closely over granny specs >

I am seeing a change in the flavour of your posts recently, m'boy

neiljames77 · 30/09/2014 16:35

It's because I'm not looking at things objectively anymore. I have daughters who have recently been on the wrong end of sexism. I'll freely admit that if I had sons, I'd be none the wiser,as bad as that sounds.

BuffyBotRebooted · 30/09/2014 16:35

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AnyFucker · 30/09/2014 16:36

Wrong answer !

You are supposed to say it's as a result of hanging around the feminism boards. Wink

YonicScrewdriver · 30/09/2014 16:37

Someone?

Raises eyebrow...

neiljames77 · 30/09/2014 16:48

I only posted on this thread really because kujopiya's post wasn't even a question of feminism. It was just a case of right and wrong and his posts contained an element of irony.

BuffyBotRebooted · 30/09/2014 16:52

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GarlicSeptimus · 30/09/2014 16:52

It is interesting, Neil, that you said your daughters' experiences made you less objective. Surely you meant the opposite! Having acquired a broader view, you're now able to see things more objectively, not less :)

Subjectivity means seeing things only from one's own perspective.

GarlicSeptimus · 30/09/2014 16:53

You can't have gravitas, Buffy, you're a sweet little blonde Grin

YonicScrewdriver · 30/09/2014 17:00

Now we need a MAN to clear up this mess...

KulamLobeseder · 30/09/2014 17:05

Don't be stupid, Yonic, men can't be expected to do cleaning, it withers their penises.