37 year old man here

[BlueStahli]

Hello,

I'm a 37 year old male, married, with two children--a boy and a girl.

I've always had an issue with sexism. But only recently have I been delving headlong into it. I've been researching facts and studies, talking to people, getting opinions, and voicing my own views. In the process, I stumbled across this site. So I joined. I hope to learn much here. Needless to say, I'll be spending most of my time hanging out in the feminism forum.

My reasons for being here are three-fold:

1. I want facts! I want to know how sexism and discrimination have been measured/studied scientifically and what results have been found. I want to know what kinds of government policies and human rights have been instated (or removed) and where in the world this has happened. I'm tired of anecdotal stories and questioning how biased people's claims are and I feel I'm ready to take a position on more secure grounds--but I need to build those grounds first.

2. I feel I can contribute much to feminism by offering a man's perspective. I wear my heart of my sleeve and I'm not afraid to reveal personal information. But I also feel that if I'm going to give my perspective on certain issues, I'm going to have to earn the right to do it first (so you won't get it in my first post :)). I'm confident that I can do this in a constructive/non-offensive way, and if I ever do step out of line (never advertently), I'm open to being corrected. Ultimately, I feel that if two groups are trying to settle their differences, there's no better way than to hear the perspectives on both sides.

3. I've got issues! :) I really do! Like I said, I've always had issues with sexism, and lately I've been on a self-induced "therapy kick". I've been forcing myself to "get over it". Diving into the issue with other peopleother womenis how I'm doing it. I don't think I'll ever be "cured" of my issues, but if I'm going to be stuck with them, I figure I might as well have them for the right reasons (i.e. educating myself--as in #1 above).

So that's my spiel.

So first order of business: I'd like to ask if there are any males on this forum--particularly ones that frequent the feminism forum. I'd like to ask their advice on how a man conducts himself on a forum devote to moms and feminism.

Thanks :)

I can't be arsed finding the stats, kujopiya and nor do I see nay need to as you are spouting rubbish. Try the Crime Survey of England & Wales (they are a well known radical feminist movement) or the Rape Crisis or summat if you are itching for fight.

Or you could just believe women. Now there's a radical thought.

Rape not take

Sodding autocorrect

Should I mention, again, that women, sadly, make more suicide attempts than men and that men, sadly, succeed more often?

Here is a great organisation, started by a friend of a friend, where men concerned about the mental health of other men can put their activism to good use

www.thecalmzone.net

Well there lies the nub doesn't it?

I'm sitting here on tenterhooks waiting to find out.

Oh wait...

I suspect I can guess. Been there done that got the t-shirt

Nope that wasn't my point.

Why are you so angry at women kujo?

You lost me at your first post, kujo. Have you read any other reports, or just that one?

No that wasn't the point either.

I don't have to provide sources. I'm not the one talking shite.

I haven't seen any feminists say that men 1) shouldn't cry 2) should not have access to health care 3) are not entitled to a warm comfortable home 4) deserve to get shagged up the arse in prison

kujo, I do believe you are making stuff up

'cos that hasn't ever happened before

"We have penises! So you just have to believe us!"

Well that's pretty much the status quo tbh

The point is that women and children are routinely disbelieved when they tell others about sex crimes committed against them.

Obviously some people think that women and children who complain of rape are fucking lying scum, but here on the feminism board we take the statistically accurate view that the chance they are lying is very very very low, and the moral and ethical standpoint that the authorities should investigate complaints of serious crime.

This is obviously an approach viewed by some as ridiculous

Kujo See my link upthread where all this energy can be directed for the good of men's mental health (genuinely)

The false accusation for rape is similar to that of other crimes: between 3 and 8%; indeed, I believe it is at the lower end of that range.

How about taking a neutral stance and not making any judgement until both sides of the story have been heard? Innocent until proven guilty, right?

This isn't a criminal court.

Yes it would be nice if the victims of crime were thought to be innocent until proven guilty.

"IMO I think a man would be laughed out of court."

Why do you think this?

If a man were laughed out of court, why would that be the fault of feminists? Because that seems to be the implication here. Feminism would make it less likely that a man would be laughed out of court (if indeed that happens)

Making stuff up again. Feminists want all sexual assaults taken seriously.