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[JuliaScurr]

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Lets cut the pretence tukapov that you care about women in prostitution.

Given those facts, why would the nordic model be better than decrim for the safety of those in the industry?

What other areas of women's rights or welfare are you engaged with tuk?

Are you campaigning for better benefits so that women are not so desperate for men that they have to let you fuck them for money?

What other areas of women's rights or welfare are you engaged with FF?

Let me guess, trying to ban Page 3 and trying to ban lapdancing clubs? Trying to ban anything involving adult women removing clothing to make money?

Do you campaign against rape as well? Equal pay for equal work? Equality of opportunity?

Or just, as Flora suggested for it to remain legal for you to buy consent to have sex on women who don't want you to have sex on them?

Rape is illegal.

Giving someone less pay only because of gender is illegal.

Opportunity? Name something men can do that women can't.

Name something men can do that women can't.

...in the UK.

Join the infantry

Your turn.....

What other issues facing women do you crayon all over internet fora about?

Men (and boys from a very young age) can't cry without being seen as "weak".

And apologies for multi posting, but you seem to have no clue what equality of opportunity actually means.

What the fuck has boys not being able to cry got to do with anything?

You do realise that it is other men who reinforce that don't you? By calling other men, girls or gay if they do. Because being female or gay is lesser.

Why can those men who are ridiculous enough to say stupid shit like that capable of seeing gender imbalance and you can't?

So you don't think it's a gender issue the fact it's fine for girls/women to cry and ask for help but not for boys and men who are just told to "man up"?

Which gender commits suicide the most?

(hint it isn't women)

@tukapov, my definition of pimps would expand to include anyone profiting and taking a "cut". As it stands what two consenting people get up to in the privacy of their bedroom is between them. It's not what goes on between two people and an escort agency.

If we have to live in a world where a woman has to sleep with strangers to feed her children, I expect her to take home every bloody penny of that £150 or whatever it was you mentioned up thread.

Also and I'll restate for you as I've mentioned this on other threads, I'm not against the idea of sex/money transactions in principle. If we lived in a society where 50% of high paid jobs were held by women, 50% of low paid jobs were held by men! and the same spread in between. If we lived in a world where women were seen as more than just sex objects or household appliances. If we actually lived in a world where when you opened your mouth you were judged purely on what you said as opposed to what did or didn't dangle between your legs. Then if there was still supply and demand for it a lot of my objections would evaporate, but then again I expect supply would diminish exponentially.

To reiterate. It's not feminists who are telling men not to cry. It is other men.

So, sorry, but that's a male issue, you go solve it.

I have extensive experience in working with people who are suicidal and parasuicidal, which aspect do you want to discuss?

You are correct in that more young men than young women commit suicide. Why do you think that is?

Hint: it's not because of feminists.

Actually you don't want to get on the suicide track with me. If you get into the psychology of it society expects men to be strong and show no weakness, and rather than own, feel and express their feelings they hide, bottle and repress them. True emotional strength and stability comes from the ability to feel and integrate the full spectrum of human emotion.

What often gets mistaken for strength is actually a very superficial form of stoicism. If you want an extreme example look at the bushido code of feudal Japan where basically you had to project compliance to the ideal at all times. Surprise surprise ritual suicide was embedded in the paradigm.

My post was not directed at you capt, just in case that's not clear.

I know Dervel, no worries.

I'm sorry tukapov, this just occurred to me. Have you ever tried manning up and asking for help?

Hint: the sky does not in fact fall down!

"manning up and asking for help"

That sounds contradictory. "Manning up" generally means keeping emotions to yourself and showing no sign of weakness.

Yeah but aren't you demonstrating a fear of appearing weak? If not to the outside world then to yourself? Where it really counts!

Also imagine if you ask for help from people and 50% of those people are women! You might learn rudimentary skills in communicating with the opposite sex, which in turns lowers the need to pay for sex in the first place! Simples!

To reiterate. It's not feminists who are telling men not to cry. It is other men. So, sorry, but that's a male issue, you go solve it.

No, its quite beyond 'other men'. Alexithymia is a condition forged in a boys early youth by society at large. Parents, adults and and age peers of both gender can all have a hand in it.