I support Page 3, who's with me?

[Beth9009]

This might not go down well, but I cannot accept the campaign to ban Page 3. Here's why:

There is nothing wrong with the naked female body. A woman posing with her breasts on show is not lewd nor is it harmful to children.

Hypocrisy - Page 3 is no different to male models posing shirtless in women's magazines.

Prudishness - People who claim that newspapers should be banned from showing topless women are no different to the Victorians or to people in conservative parts of the world who don't allow women to show bare legs. It's the same principle.

Market mechanisms - if there is a demand for something and a consenting adult willing to supply it, then who is the government to get in the way?

Freedom of choice - if you don't like it, don't buy the Sun!

I just read that back

Sounds like star wars or something

Man I'm good

through wrapping paper tube in humorous manner...

oh simmer down there's a love.

Take up yoga. It will do you good when you get into these moods

SM, what are you going on about? I love you as a poster generally but it was me that mentioned dittany initially. I owe her a debt. For opening my mind and making me think about stuff. She is not here (that I know of) so no crawling going on. I don't even agree with her a lot of the time.

Buffy - I love my elegant ... Great person to follow on twitter. Was she on here ? Those must have been the days indeed

I liked her Russell Brand / no more page 3

So "Beth" are you off constructing a new personality to unleash on mumsnet

SGM is amazing.

FEMINISM

Close your eyes and feel the force............

No that's DEFINITELY not right.

Open your eyes.

That should read elegant gathering!

Apologies too much

Never bodes well when folk start all that mn memory lane

You know what it's eleven o'clock at night. I think we can be forgiven for looking back and remembering.

The old FWR days weren't pleasant for us all so I understand where SM is coming from. I like the way this section has evolved after a period of shell shocked tumbleweed threads.

Agree, scallops. It's nice to remember the good bits.

I miss Sakura, too. Though I've no idea if she's still her under a new name - though her style felt quite distinctive to me.

I remember her really making me get it about PIV/gender. Lightbulb moments.

Aw shucks SM - this is FWR and it would very unfair to deny that Dittany and SGM - and others - made this space initially. It's not like name your favourite Netter.

I recall it cliquey,dominated by strident their way or highway posters
I won't be hectored by a man,and sure as shit won't be hectored by woman
Fem threads are better now,than the ole days

I'd love to read SGMs blog if someone could send me the link.

I loved Sakura's post. She was really good on motherhood too.

Why 'sure as shit'? Is being hectored by a woman kind of super humiliating or something?

She was good on lots of things.

Dont recall names,do recall the vibe though
And that mnhq got posts from many saying they found topics too adversarial

If you don't recall names, why be so quick to condemn Dittany etc? People may be referring to an entirely different group of posters for all you know, by your account.

"strident"

Women. ^ Never be that.

I've not named posters,I've said I don't like the ole days sentimentality
IMO femtopics were combative and hard going,dominated by strident few
I don't share the was better in whatsherface days sentiment

Well, you're doing your bit to make it unpleasant and adversarial again, aren't you?

OK, I take you at your word on that. But again, why is it worse to be bossed about by women?

I beg to differ. What cause I dont share old days sentiment