So many evil men...can't stand it

[SplitHeadGirl]

First of all, I know fully well that men will get upset at what I think and am about to say, so I would like to clarify that I am talking about EVIL men, not the good, wonderful dads and granddads and husbands and nice single blokes out there....the ones who I KNOW (my brain, not my gut, tells me so) are in a majority, but who seem to be few (is it their deafening silence?)

But any fool can see that the sheer amount of men, who are prepared to do unspeakable things to women and girls (and boys as well as other men, not to mention the vulnerable and the elderly...wow, the list goes on) is just overwhelming. I read today about Anene Booysen, and I was absolutely heartbroken, but yet not shocked. For men to be so diabolical to women is not shocking anymore, and that is men's greatest tragedy.

I have two little daughters, and a little son, and I fear for them at the hands of men. Not women...just men.

I feel like I am thinking out loud with this post, so no worries if no one feels they can respond. I just wish I didn't feel so helpless at the tsunami of male violence.

'Has feminism helped women?'

Yes, historically. Now it hinders and represses them.

I said something similar to this on another thread.
I have noticed a trend for women being labelled stepford wives for being happy to look after the children and be a homemaker and not wanting to go out to work as they are happy for their husbands to be the breadwinner.
Feminism should be about choice; women having more choice and not feeling oppressed regardless of which choices they make. In reality women are often made to feel that they are doing something wrong by wanting to live a lifestyle where the woman is a homemaker and the man is the breadwinner.
Personally I like my role as a SAHM and it is something that I chose to do, that choice should be respected and not looked upon as something that I am forced to do because of a patriarchal society or prohibitive childcare costs.

Sig, you're the aVFM advocate here - and it was you who said they used accepted home office stats. I've demonstrated to you that they don't - but I'm not the one using Paul Elam's twisted view of the world as my reference, and constantly linking to it.

I don't constantly link to AVFM, not because I have a problem with it, I don't. But none of you read the links I put up anyway because, oh I don't know, you might catch 'MRA' or something. I'm not sure. On AVFM there is a very interesting article written by a female MRA just been put up about DV. Pointless linking it though.

I, however, have trawled through loads of feminist links, in the interest of maybe learning something even if I disagree with it.

It's all about self interest yet again. None of this has any substance when it's just an attempt to justify one's own life choices.

I can understand feeling that feminist theory attacks your personal choices but to allow that to discredit the actual reality of the lives of women who aren't so fortunate and who don't have those personal choices strikes me as lacking in compassion and humanity.

There are some men like that kim. But then there are those who take parenting seriously. It has been the single biggest event in my life for the past 16 years, and I would not change it for the world. So please, let's not tar everyone with the same brush. There are - quite rightly - expectations these days that being a dad means doing the shitty bits too.

'But that's just about the main expectation on a man.'

I'm a woman kim (despite feminist protestations and accusations that I'm not), and it ain't that hard, trust me.

Experience is an individual thing. It's never a good thing to get sucked into a groundswell of negativity, feminism is very negative.

Reminds me of Adrian Mole's mother telling him (I'm paraphrasing)..'Never get involved with needy people, they always suck you into their miserable world'. Not that all feminists are miserable and needy, of course, but, you know, a lot are. You don't come away feeling at peace with the world do you. Not when so much evil supposedly resides outside your door (not literally).

Kim, I don't think any of your list is true

Experience is an individual thing. It's never a good thing to get sucked into a groundswell of negativity, feminism is very negative.

Yet you're always here, sig

My good god, what a lot of awful people on this thread!!! Truly shocked by some of the comments on here.

In what way, NandH?

No, I think it maybe true for 'a man' (as you ask). I thought you were stating it in general. If you are listing it for 'a man' them I'm sure it is true. As this list would be true for 'a woman'.

NandH, calling us awful people is a wee bit close to a personal attack. Maybe you mean that you find some of the views awful ?

HTH

biggidy because back in the thread some one (cannot remember nickname) has suggested that being coerced into sex is rape, absolutely not. I have been coerced into sex, I would not have called it rape, it was bad judgement and trust on my behalf.

Also page 7, I believe I read "men enjoy the privilege of raping a woman" ... what sort of sick comment is that, men DO NOT get that privilege, that comment normalises rape and makes it sound like men are entitled to rape a woman.

Wtf.

blissery not a personal attack at all, did I say blissery you are awful? ... no.

Yes blissery, actually I apologise, I have just re read my comment and yes I should have said 'views' not 'people'.

Any sex where a woman doesn't consent freely and willingly IS rape.

That's not just my opinion, it's the law throughout the UK.

NandH. No worries - it's easily done

Or, NandH, maybe it was bad judgement on the part of the person who coerced you?

You can call your experience what you like, but people shouldn't coerce others into having sex against their wishes.